Will Obama be held in as high regard as those predecessors?

Both are over-rated. I'll have to get back to you regarding how high a regard Obama is held in some years after his discharge in 2017.

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1986 300SDL, 362K
1984 300D, 138K

Push for college football playoff system? Really?

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Now, if he could get MLB to drop the "designated hitter" in the AL, then that could qualify him for Rushmore, baby!

GM is alive and bin Laden dead.

Anyone who thinks any pol can keep all their promises is what you call 'naive.' Power of positive thinking, you say 'hell yes we can,' and you usually end up accomplishing more than if you'd hung your head, all weepy, saying, 'we're doomed.'

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1986 300SDL, 362K
1984 300D, 138K

So? The Bush-Obama bailout aka bandaid worked. Both had a hand in it. Both should have been hung for it. Company that cannot survive should be left to it's own devices. It's not like it wasn't a LONG time coming. So if Obama gets credit for it, so should Bush. As to OBL, WGAS? What has that accomplished? ALQ still operates independently and is like the Hydra where you cut one head off and another two comes up. BFD. You should know better than to think that killing OBL will send a message. Besides, it was the SEAL team that did the dirty work as was it the intelligence group that found him.

How about a middle ground. TELL US WHAT THE TRUTH IS instead of this positive thinking crap or "we're doomed". Tell us what is realistic and that goes for all politicians.

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Hearing GM vote this cycle going to stick where Obama's sun don't shine

Yeah they doing real good.

Good. The more he does NOT achieve, the more I want to vote for him. Govt intervention comes WITH A PRICE. The less you do, the lower the price. As I said before,

Dear Govt,

Please do me a favor by NOT doing me any favors.

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99 E300 Turbodiesel
91 Vette with 383 motor
05 Polaris Sportsman 800 EFI
06 Polaris Sportsman 500 EFI
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Red
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Yellow
04 Tailgator 21 ft Toy Hauler
11 Harley Davidson 883 SuperLow

You can add "Do Best to Destroy America" to the "accomplished" column.

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Don't never die dude.

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1986 300SDL, 362K
1984 300D, 138K

Nattering nabobs of negativism ^^

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1995 E 420, 170k "The Red Plum" (sold)

2015 BMW 535i xdrive awd Stage 1 DINAN, 6k, <----364 hp

1967 Mercury Cougar, 49k

2013 Jaguar XF, 20k <----340 hp Supercharged, All Wheel Drive (sold)

Do you mean you actually wish to discuss something

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- 2004 Mazda RALLYWANKEL
- 2007 Saturn sky redline
- 2004 Explorer...under surgery.

Past: 135i, GTI, 300E, 300SD, 300SD, Stealth

There's the problem, confusing the words "discuss" with "preach."

How has that voting strategy worked for you so far?

I'd have to say that with the lowered expectations, the disappointment is less so it works out good. Just like everything else, I lower my expectations and they either meet it or exceed it. Either way, no tears.

If you expected me to be a crook, would you feel more disappointed than if you believed I was a decent person after you got screwed by me?

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01 Ford Excursion Powerstroke
99 E300 Turbodiesel
91 Vette with 383 motor
05 Polaris Sportsman 800 EFI
06 Polaris Sportsman 500 EFI
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Red
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Yellow
04 Tailgator 21 ft Toy Hauler
11 Harley Davidson 883 SuperLow