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MTI · #16 09-07-2012, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Txjake

Can't get a positive from this negative, at least not on the math I learned in university....

Part of the problem, is that political math bears no relationship to what we all learned in school.

Which again, underscores the problem with a "corner office, spreadsheet candidate" being touted as the more virtuous choice.

elchivito · #17 09-07-2012, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton

Sure, the GOP might effect a similar outcome. But, they might not.

Might not. The operative word. 30 months of jobs added, regardless how many beats 800K a month lost when Obama came into office. Anyone who can't possible see a positive here is decidedly not looking for one.

Romney's 5 point plan:

1 Privatize the postal service, education and healthcare

2. Sell off Federal lands and their mineral rights

3. Shrink gov't. by offing public employees. No firefighters, police, health inspectors etc.

4. End medicare, medicaid and SS

5. Tax cuts for the rich.

Yeah, this MIGHT help, except it won't happen.

elchivito · #18 09-07-2012, 03:03 PM

Rmoney speaking in Fla.:

"It’s not that [Obama] wasn’t trying, in my view. He was pulling the wrong direction. He didn’t know what it takes to actually make the economy work. Paul Ryan and I understand how the economy works. We understand how Washington works. We will reach across the aisle and find good people who, like us, want to make sure this company deals with its challenges. We’ll get America on track again.”

Probably straight from one of the pitches he made to some struggling business, right before he stripped it and sold off the parts.

I don't want a CEO in chief thank very much.

raymr · #19 09-07-2012, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton

If you go by recent (or not so recent) history, the GOP is definitely not responsible or electable by anyone with the slightest bit of intelligence.

However, I'm going out on a limb and "hoping" that Willard and Ryan will be different. I'm not so sure about Willard...........Ryan has some serious ideas on cutting the deficit. I'm completely with that.

As I attempted to explain to Link, to no avail...........do you go with someone who clearly is not a leader and has no vision for the future, or do you go with someone who's party is self-serving based upon past performance?

What if I judged you based upon your family? How would you appreciate that? Willard should be given a chance as he states that he must control spending to a much greater degree than Obama.

I agree that Ryan has the numbers credentials. My concern is that he's going for the "Grand Slam" with no intention of compromise on anything - a Grover Norquist kind of guy. If that's the case, you can expect roads and schools to crumble and/or local taxes to skyrocket, as everything will get stripped to the bare bones to avoid federal tax hikes.

Air&Road · #20 09-07-2012, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by raymr

I agree that Ryan has the numbers credentials. My concern is that he's going for the "Grand Slam" with no intention of compromise on anything - a Grover Norquist kind of guy. If that's the case, you can expect roads and schools to crumble and/or local taxes to skyrocket, as everything will get stripped to the bare bones to avoid federal tax hikes.

Unfortunately, due to the wreckless spending of recent politicians, cut backs to the level that will cause what you describe are absolutely necessary if we wish to stay away from total economic collapse. It's a **** sandwich and we are all going to have to take a bite. It's the price for the good years of unbridled spending.

if you're gonna dance, you gotta pay the fiddler...... sooner or later.

MTI · #21 09-07-2012, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Air&Road

if you're gonna dance, you gotta pay the fiddler...... sooner or later.

and when the hat is passed around, Mitt and his pals toss in 13 cents while the rest of us throw in a quarter or more, but that's okay, there's more of us than him.

raymr · #22 09-07-2012, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MTI

and when the hat is passed around, Mitt and his pals toss in 13 cents while the rest of us throw in a quarter or more, but that's okay, there's more of us than him.

Not even. There was an islands-themed party going on next door, so Mitt slipped out the back before the music stopped.

Brian Carlton · #23 09-07-2012, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by elchivito

I don't want a CEO in chief thank very much.

I'll take a CEO in chief over a woman who spends somebody else's money on anything and everything.............a lot of it frivolous.............with nothing to show for it at the end of the day.

jplinville · #24 09-07-2012, 05:57 PM

A CEO in chief will watch the pennies (billions) a lot closer than what we currently have.

dynalow · #25 09-07-2012, 06:08 PM

I've been thhinking of this old tune ever since the Obama campaign adopted
" Forward""
as a theme.

Forward Ho!
They were sure of victory....

Mr. Custer by Larry Verne - YouTube

Just explain to me wtf "Forward" is supposed to mean? Please.

I said 4 years ago he was an empty suit. He hasn't filled it out fully yet imo.

What's that old line about executives?
"The Effective Executive gets the right things done.

I'm with BC in my thinking. Obama offered a 10 year, 10 trillion budget deficit back in 2008 iirc. He's right on plan. He shhould be fired.

If the USG books were held to generally accepted auditing standards, the going concern disclosure notes would make for interesting reading.

Dudesky · #26 09-07-2012, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jplinville

A CEO in chief will watch the pennies (billions) a lot closer than what we currently have.

But isn't Obama our Green candidate?

Brian Carlton · #27 09-07-2012, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by raymr

I agree that Ryan has the numbers credentials. My concern is that he's going for the "Grand Slam" with no intention of compromise on anything - a Grover Norquist kind of guy. If that's the case, you can expect roads and schools to crumble and/or local taxes to skyrocket, as everything will get stripped to the bare bones to avoid federal tax hikes.

In the current spending environment, "stripped to the bare bones" is a relative term. In such a condition, what do you think the deficit will be..........maybe $400B per year? If so, I'm fine with that.

You cannot complain about "stripped to the bare bones" unless there are funds that are unspent. If you don't have the funds, accept the fact that you must buy less crap.

If you don't have the money in your own household, I'm afraid you'll have to "strip to the bare bones" in order to survive.

The government should be no different.

elchivito · #28 09-07-2012, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton

In the current spending environment, "stripped to the bare bones" is a relative term. In such a condition, what do you think the deficit will be..........maybe $400B per year? If so, I'm fine with that.

You cannot complain about "stripped to the bare bones" unless there are funds that are unspent. If you don't have the funds, accept the fact that you must buy less crap.

If you don't have the money in your own household, I'm afraid you'll have to "strip to the bare bones" in order to survive.

The government should be no different.

Austerity seems to be working well for Greece, and Spain.

Chris Bell · #29 09-07-2012, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MTI

and when the hat is passed around, Mitt and his pals toss in 13 cents while the rest of us throw in a quarter or more, but that's okay, there's more of us than him.

So what?

Brian Carlton · #30 09-07-2012, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by elchivito

Austerity seems to be working well for Greece, and Spain.

And you truthfully believe that you can spend your way into prosperity? I think you should reconsider............

Austerity is painful. You can thank GWB and BHO and their cohorts for that.

Unfortunately, your solution makes the pain much worse down the road..........but, it might be after your lifetime, so, presumably that's OK?