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Old 02-16-2013, 10:56 PM
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Most Crowded Gun Show I've Ever Been To

I spent four hours walking the Fort Worth Gun Show today. It took a long time just getting off the freeway and into the parking lot. Then inside it was so crowded that you could barely make it down the aisles. The volume gun dealers had tables set up with clerks sitting with customers filling out the paper work. I never saw any of these chairs empty when I went by. Like Tom indicated in another thread, Obama has definitely stimulated the gun industry.

I wasn't there looking for guns or ammo and it was a good thing, supplies are low and prices are ridiculous. I fully expect ammo and component prices to go back down after this frenzy is over. For now I have plenty of both.

About 20 to 25 years ago I had a terrible coyote problem and did lots of calling them up and taking them out with my neighbors doing the same. After that we went through the normal fluctuation, but now it's getting crazy again. Scope technology has changed since I scoped my rifle 30 years ago, not to mention that the scope I mounted then was a cheap one.

I wanted to get a high quality illuminated reticle version. In the course of today's research I found that not only are there plenty of illuminated reticle choices with 30 year newer technology, but also that there are some quality and affordable night scope technology. I decided to experiment with an illuminated reticle for dawn and dusk first and got a one that was not terribly expensive to try. For not much more than a good quality optical scope I can get a night vision scope.

If it doesn't work out I will lay out $600 for a night vision IR scope istead of a high quality optical scope. Like everything else electronic gadgetry goes down in price as time goes along.

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Old 02-16-2013, 11:08 PM
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I spent four hours walking the Fort Worth Gun Show today. It took a long time just getting off the freeway and into the parking lot. Then inside it was so crowded that you could barely make it down the aisles. The volume gun dealers had tables set up with clerks sitting with customers filling out the paper work. I never saw any of these chairs empty when I went by. Like Tom indicated in another thread, Obama has definitely stimulated the gun industry.

I wasn't there looking for guns or ammo and it was a good thing, supplies are low and prices are ridiculous. I fully expect ammo and component prices to go back down after this frenzy is over. For now I have plenty of both.

About 20 to 25 years ago I had a terrible coyote problem and did lots of calling them up and taking them out with my neighbors doing the same. After that we went through the normal fluctuation, but now it's getting crazy again. Scope technology has changed since I scoped my rifle 30 years ago, not to mention that the scope I mounted then was a cheap one.

I wanted to get a high quality illuminated reticle version. In the course of today's research I found that not only are there plenty of illuminated reticle choices with 30 year newer technology, but also that there are some quality and affordable night scope technology. I decided to experiment with an illuminated reticle for dawn and dusk first and got a one that was not terribly expensive to try. For not much more than a good quality optical scope I can get a night vision scope.

If it doesn't work out I will lay out $600 for a night vision IR scope istead of a high quality optical scope. Like everything else electronic gadgetry goes down in price as time goes along.
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Old 02-16-2013, 11:20 PM
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I spent four hours walking the Fort Worth Gun Show today. It took a long time just getting off the freeway and into the parking lot. Then inside it was so crowded that you could barely make it down the aisles. The volume gun dealers had tables set up with clerks sitting with customers filling out the paper work. I never saw any of these chairs empty when I went by. Like Tom indicated in another thread, Obama has definitely stimulated the gun industry.

I wasn't there looking for guns or ammo and it was a good thing, supplies are low and prices are ridiculous. I fully expect ammo and component prices to go back down after this frenzy is over. For now I have plenty of both.

About 20 to 25 years ago I had a terrible coyote problem and did lots of calling them up and taking them out with my neighbors doing the same. After that we went through the normal fluctuation, but now it's getting crazy again. Scope technology has changed since I scoped my rifle 30 years ago, not to mention that the scope I mounted then was a cheap one.

I wanted to get a high quality illuminated reticle version. In the course of today's research I found that not only are there plenty of illuminated reticle choices with 30 year newer technology, but also that there are some quality and affordable night scope technology. I decided to experiment with an illuminated reticle for dawn and dusk first and got a one that was not terribly expensive to try. For not much more than a good quality optical scope I can get a night vision scope.

If it doesn't work out I will lay out $600 for a night vision IR scope istead of a high quality optical scope. Like everything else electronic gadgetry goes down in price as time goes along.
The electronic "caller" technology has also improved significantly, still best to "old school" call them in the last couple hundred yards into range, just because it's easier to tailor the calling to their posture and attitude, but it's hard to beat a good electric call to get their attention from a mile away!
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Old 02-16-2013, 11:27 PM
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Yeah Rollo I was disappointed that I did not find much in the way of calls. I guess the gun frenzy took emphasis away from hunting gear. i still have the call that was successful back then and I expect it will still work. That said, a pilot friend of mine said he has an electronic call that cost $400. He says it is incredible and said I could try his before I buy one. I have no idea what it is.
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I'd like to go to a gun show, but I'm terrified of possibly getting shot accidentally by someone handling a firearm carelessly. Same thing with the gun range/skeet shoot. Too much possibilty of taking a round by someone's carelessness.

The other possibility is some guy going off shooting ppl on purpose, as what took out Chris Kyle.



Here's my niece and her boyfriend at a gun range in Houston, Texas last week.....yes, I think she's a cutey!
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It's sort of a hoot the way gun-happiness can take off.
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I'd like to go to a gun show, but I'm terrified of possibly getting shot accidentally by someone handling a firearm carelessly. Same thing with the gun range/skeet shoot. Too much possibilty of taking a round by someone's carelessness.

The other possibility is some guy going off shooting ppl on purpose, as what took out Chris Kyle.



Here's my niece and her boyfriend at a gun range in Houston, Texas last week.....yes, I think she's a cutey!
The last place an accidental discharge will take place is a gun show, at least the way they do them here. If you were to have ever been to one, you would know why.

I've shot skeet a LOT and trap a little and I have never even heard of an injury or killing on a shotgun range although the law of averages would indicate that it must have happened somewhere. Having spent years shooting skeet I can tell you that it is probably safer than playing baseball and I was a baseball player for about 12 years. I saw more carnage on the baseball field than I have ever seen on a skeet range.
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It's sort of a hoot the way gun-happiness can take off.
Yes it is quite interesting.
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Old 02-17-2013, 08:16 AM
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For the last 20 or so years, the gun shows I go to has a booth before the entrance to the show where weapons are checked for ammo, then cable tied in such a fashion that it wont fire. The weapons on display at the shows are also cable tied in the same way. If there's an accidental discharge, it's generally not inside the building, it's in the parking lot or at the booth near the entrance.

Dealers will generally cut the cable tie for you so you can check the action and such, but always put one back on after you are done inspecting the possible purchase.

My last show, I was made to drop my mag, prove the chamber was clear, and my personal carry weapon was tied back. I dropped my mag in my pocket, re-holstered my weapon, and enjoyed the show. Although I hate feeling naked like that, I saw the number of off duty officers moonlighting as security for the show, and felt a little more at ease.

A gun show is the last place I would expect a shooting to happen, accidental or otherwise. I'm sure there's statistics out there to prove it...just as many as the studies to disprove it. I won't bother locating any, because the point is moot.

Anyway, back to topic of scopes. What are you scoping, Larry? It's easy to drop as much on optics as the rifle is worth. Today's "cheap" optics are light years ahead of where they were 40 years ago. I'd stay away from lighted reticles right now, as the price is higher than it should be due to demand...everybody is wanting to outfit their new purchases, and there are plenty of them.
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Old 02-17-2013, 08:18 AM
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Figure out what power scope you want, then look at different online sources as well as Craigslist...you'll get better deals that way.
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Old 02-17-2013, 08:37 AM
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I bought a Paladin Gen 1 NV scope for my .22 wmr that I am pleased with. Got it at Cabelas for around $400 over a year ago. Wouldn't surprise me of the price has dropped.

I was surprised about sighting in the NV scope. Guess what -- it's dark! Duh-oh!
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The last place an accidental discharge will take place is a gun show, at least the way they do them here. If you were to have ever been to one, you would know why.

I've shot skeet a LOT and trap a little and I have never even heard of an injury or killing on a shotgun range although the law of averages would indicate that it must have happened somewhere. Having spent years shooting skeet I can tell you that it is probably safer than playing baseball and I was a baseball player for about 12 years. I saw more carnage on the baseball field than I have ever seen on a skeet range.
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Old 02-17-2013, 08:40 AM
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You're pretty quick with the research. Almost as if somebody had already assembled that list.
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You're pretty quick with the research. Almost as if somebody had already assembled that list.
nope.... about 2 minutes with google and a cup o coffee
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