So Much for AWD - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

t walgamuth · #1 04-24-2013, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ned2683

this is your opinion, NOT a fact. can you say Nascar is better than F1?

i agree that this is a fact, 4WD has dominated rally. I never argued this and carefully left my self an out for all rally and drag races where 4wd will have the advantage. its a moot point you are making here because nowadays all rally cars are 4WD. 4WD has advantage is bad weather and less than ideal conditions. so to get a good conclusion you would have to have a dumb team showing up with a RWD rally car and look at his sectional time in tarmac and compare it to its AWD rivals. obviously no team will do this because it will get eaten up on the dirt course. so you basically gave a OBVIOUS example here that no one argues against, and used it as the FINAL answer.

i have already shown that 4wd was tried in F1 and was not successful.

i draw my conclusion from my little racing experience, physics, and all the examples i have given (both autocross and track times of all the famous tracks). my challange still stand:

1. Provide to me a motorsport that all drivetrains can compete in where AWD dominates RWD (and FWD) - that is not rally and not drag racing

Most of the other series AWD is illegal. Can you name one where it is legal and not being used?

ned2683 · #2 04-24-2013, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth

Most of the other series AWD is illegal. Can you name one where it is legal and not being used?

Autocross - B stock

I cant come up with a mainstream one. autocross is the only one i know, but that is so course dependent.

Brings up a good point to say AWD cars are better because they dominate rally is like saying RWD cars are better because they dominate F1 or Nascar.

i think we can all agree that AWD adds weight? and that a lighter car performs better than a heavier car?

BTW i think we have gone around and around with this, if you do a search on the internet there has been SEVERAL of these same topics. That's why i was actually interested in this super secret need to know study.

you guys have not done a job convincing me as i have not to you. probably the nature of the topic is that we have our mind set, and another person - on an internet message board no less is going to convince us otherwise.