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Old 06-07-2013, 12:23 AM
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Old 06-07-2013, 07:28 AM
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Old 06-07-2013, 08:08 AM
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I've got to say that this story breaking actually helped me. On my latest snoop through my 14 year old son's text history (I do this once or twice a week) I noticed he had been texting a young lady. Much of the talk was mundane and boring, until I got to the most recent ones...he had been sexting with this girl, but without pictures (I block all sending and receiving of pictures).

I found the texts on Monday night. That evening, while he and I were in the basement shop, I told him about laws and how what he was doing was against the law.

We were watching the news last night, like we always do, and the story came up. He turned 20 shades of white, and asked me if we could head to the basement for some man to man talk. He sat there in tears, worrying about whether or not he would be caught by the law for what I caught him doing. After about a half hour or so of him being scared to death, I told him that if he's lucky, he'll get by with it this time, and that I'd do everything I could to keep him from harm.

I don't think he'll sext anyone anymore...or even think about it.

I have to admit, this net they cast has me concerned. The POTUS is the head of the Executive branch, and he's charged with enforcing the law. Say they decide to use this information that they collected and actually enforce laws that were broken...the courts system would be backlogged for years.

It makes me wonder how this information could be used in a "Minority Report" type of program and how many could be arrested for merely texting about wanting to break a law.

The government conspiracy people don't sound so far fetched anymore...
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Old 06-07-2013, 08:39 AM
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I've got to say that this story breaking actually helped me. On my latest snoop through my 14 year old son's text history (I do this once or twice a week) I noticed he had been texting a young lady. Much of the talk was mundane and boring, until I got to the most recent ones...he had been sexting with this girl, but without pictures (I block all sending and receiving of pictures).

I found the texts on Monday night. That evening, while he and I were in the basement shop, I told him about laws and how what he was doing was against the law.

We were watching the news last night, like we always do, and the story came up. He turned 20 shades of white, and asked me if we could head to the basement for some man to man talk. He sat there in tears, worrying about whether or not he would be caught by the law for what I caught him doing. After about a half hour or so of him being scared to death, I told him that if he's lucky, he'll get by with it this time, and that I'd do everything I could to keep him from harm.

I don't think he'll sext anyone anymore...or even think about it.

I have to admit, this net they cast has me concerned. The POTUS is the head of the Executive branch, and he's charged with enforcing the law. Say they decide to use this information that they collected and actually enforce laws that were broken...the courts system would be backlogged for years.

It makes me wonder how this information could be used in a "Minority Report" type of program and how many could be arrested for merely texting about wanting to break a law.

The government conspiracy people don't sound so far fetched anymore...
Not defending your son's actions of course, but I'm wondering what laws two minors talking naughty to each other were breaking.
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Old 06-07-2013, 09:19 AM
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Not defending your son's actions of course, but I'm wondering what laws two minors talking naughty to each other were breaking.
Mine... I'm trying my best to raise him to be a respectable young man. Apparently it seems to be working, because I recently got a call from the school's principal, letting me know that my son's actions stopped another kids from being bullied. He stood up against the offending kid, and after being hit, knocked him on his rump. Apparently after doing that, he told the kid to grow up and leave the other kids alone...then he reached down and helped the offending kid up to his feet and handed him his books.

He doesn't need to know that sending words isn't against the law...just the thought of it might keep him on the straight and narrow.

He's your normal, curious boy that is stepping into manhood, and doesn't know where to turn. His mother caught him in the bathroom one day 2 years ago, and told him that he was going to go to hell for doing that...then she shamed him in front of his sisters and grandparents. I finally got him to calm down and told him to keep the bathroom door locked when he's in there.

I keep the family computer on lock-down...to the point my daughter needed me to enter my password because she was doing a paper on marijuana, and Kaspersky was doing its job. Our laptops and phones have the same protection.

Kids will be kids...I know this. If this technology was present when I was a budding young man, I never would have left my room. However...since I am raising kids and have the ability to control how much smut and crap the kids see, I'm going to use every bit of it that I can.

I equate parents that don't do what is needed to protect their child's online and phone use to parents that allow a collection of porn mags to sit out on the coffee table for all to see.
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NOT against the law, and hope that he graduates to doing it in person soon, and that you'll become a new gwandpa (aww, how cute). The Puritan Dumberican fear of sex (because some bearded old fart up in the sky says it's baaaaaaaad) is just perverse.

Sex is baaaaad, but lying to your kid is OK, apparently. Hypocrite. Oh, and I spit in the faces of all forms of radical religious idiocy. Goes for born-agains, strict Catholics, radical Muslims, and Lubavitchers alike. They're all garbage bent on ridding the world of all that's good and pleasurable.
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Old 06-07-2013, 09:38 AM
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No argument from me. Most kids who go off base do so because their parents are afraid to take action. Still, what if he were to fairly easily discover that what he did isn't in fact illegal, and confronted you for being untruthful to him?
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Old 06-07-2013, 10:06 AM
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Again...No Federal laws were broken. However...PA has laws against Obscenity, even in the written form. So, I'm not lying to him...merely using rarely enforced laws in my favor to protect my kid.
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NOT against the law, and hope that he graduates to doing it in person soon, and that you'll become a new gwandpa (aww, how cute). The Puritan Dumberican fear of sex (because some bearded old fart up in the sky says it's baaaaaaaad) is just perverse.

Sex is baaaaad, but lying to your kid is OK, apparently. Hypocrite. Oh, and I spit in the faces of all forms of radical religious idiocy. Goes for born-agains, strict Catholics, radical Muslims, and Lubavitchers alike. They're all garbage bent on ridding the world of all that's good and pleasurable.
Where did I bring religion into it? It's about morals...not religion.
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Where did I bring religion into it? It's about morals...not religion.
You mean "morons?". Since when is a natural, healthy, and pleasurable human desire immoral, and why? It may be unsafe (risk of teen pregnancy and disease transmission if consummated), but it sure isn't immoral.

The British should have burned the Puritans at the stake rather than allowing them to pollute the New World with their disgusting ideology.
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Old 06-07-2013, 10:53 AM
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Mine... I'm trying my best to raise him to be a respectable young man. Apparently it seems to be working, because I recently got a call from the school's principal, letting me know that my son's actions stopped another kids from being bullied. He stood up against the offending kid, and after being hit, knocked him on his rump. Apparently after doing that, he told the kid to grow up and leave the other kids alone...then he reached down and helped the offending kid up to his feet and handed him his books.

He doesn't need to know that sending words isn't against the law...just the thought of it might keep him on the straight and narrow.

He's your normal, curious boy that is stepping into manhood, and doesn't know where to turn. His mother caught him in the bathroom one day 2 years ago, and told him that he was going to go to hell for doing that...then she shamed him in front of his sisters and grandparents. I finally got him to calm down and told him to keep the bathroom door locked when he's in there.

I keep the family computer on lock-down...to the point my daughter needed me to enter my password because she was doing a paper on marijuana, and Kaspersky was doing its job. Our laptops and phones have the same protection.

Kids will be kids...I know this. If this technology was present when I was a budding young man, I never would have left my room. However...since I am raising kids and have the ability to control how much smut and crap the kids see, I'm going to use every bit of it that I can.

I equate parents that don't do what is needed to protect their child's online and phone use to parents that allow a collection of porn mags to sit out on the coffee table for all to see.
Your wife told him he was going to hell for jerking off in the bathroom?!! Then she centers him out in front of his sisters and grandparents??!!! Then you tell him he's breaking the law for sexting?

You two sound like a couple of mind fawking control freaks. Keep your Penthouse books out of sight and let the kid be a normal 14 year old.

Wait a second......... didn't you say he just broke up with a girl friend he went out with for 6 months? Why does a 14 year old kid need a steady GF?

All I see is conflicting messages here...........
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Old 06-07-2013, 11:16 AM
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Again...No Federal laws were broken. However...PA has laws against Obscenity, even in the written form. So, I'm not lying to him...merely using rarely enforced laws in my favor to protect my kid.
As long as you're not lying to him, good.
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Obscenity laws don't apply to private conversation unless one of the parties to the conversation is offended. On the other hand, PA is a two party consent state, and eavesdropping/recording an electronic conversation requires the consent of BOTH parties. Jplinville may have committed a felony here.
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Obscenity laws don't apply to private conversation unless one of the parties to the conversation is offended. On the other hand, PA is a two party consent state, and eavesdropping/recording an electronic conversation requires the consent of BOTH parties. Jplinville may have committed a felony here.

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