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Old 07-05-2013, 10:46 PM
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Real slow day at cop HQ - DC Cops go after lemanade stand!

Cop Tells Children Not to Buy Lemonade! - YouTube

not your mother's lemonade stand......

3 Girls Busted for illegal Lemonade Stand - YouTube
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Old 07-05-2013, 11:37 PM
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Personally I have no issue with kids selling lemonade, I made my first small fortune as a six year old with breeding hamsters and selling them to the local pet store.

But it's the law, cops are hired to enforce the law, so what other choice do they have, should a cop interpret the law how he sees it fit?
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Old 07-06-2013, 09:10 AM
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Personally I have no issue with kids selling lemonade, I made my first small fortune as a six year old with breeding hamsters and selling them to the local pet store.

But it's the law, cops are hired to enforce the law, so what other choice do they have, should a cop interpret the law how he sees it fit?
Yes but that was before the age we have today. This is like saying back when, child brides were allowed. Today, not so.

Therein lies the problem. If you give him license to interpret the law as he sees fit like in the rouge cop movies that seem to end well, it could very well come back to bite you when you disagree with his interpretation. A very good thing we have is a judge to sort out the law.
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Old 07-06-2013, 09:39 AM
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Personally I have no issue with kids selling lemonade, I made my first small fortune as a six year old with breeding hamsters and selling them to the local pet store.

But it's the law, cops are hired to enforce the law, so what other choice do they have, should a cop interpret the law how he sees it fit?
Honestly, get an honest job that doesn't involve being a state sponsored thug. I suggest prostitution or burger flipping. Most cops won't be missed if they go away, and the fewer cops there are, the less time the remainder will have to go after petty nonsense like this.

This being said, I can understand not wanting vending on Capitol grounds (rather than a lemonade stand on private property). The way it was handled was ridiculous though.
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Old 07-06-2013, 11:06 AM
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Honestly, get an honest job that doesn't involve being a state sponsored thug, or just suck a .45 cal lollipop.
Why don't you go make sure that there aren't these laws that hold others responsible for your misfortune so that there are no such ridiculous laws. Or suck on a .45 cal lollipop. If you can't afford one, it will be provided.
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They are given a law to enforce. That's their job.

Maligning them in this situation is simply a mistake. I thought they handled it perfectly, giving the vendor ample opportunity to apologize and take the stand down.

They refused to do it and because combative. So, they get arrested.

The only part that was not acceptable was when the cop tried to block the cameraman on several occasions. That's a violation on their part, but, apparently, they'll do it every time to get rid of any evidence of their misbehavior. However, there was no misbehavior in this instance other than the attempt to physically block the camera.
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They are given a law to enforce. That's their job.

Maligning them in this situation is simply a mistake. I thought they handled it perfectly, giving the vendor ample opportunity to apologize and take the stand down.
I'd take the stand down. No way I'd actually APOLOGIZE to anyone, let alone a piece of filth in a blue uniform.

As far as enforcing the law, the people tasked with enforcing laws are just as much of a problem as the law itself. If no one was willing to enforce a law, the law would be as good as void.
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Old 07-06-2013, 11:14 AM
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The douche bag lemonade sellers are lucky they didn't end up in jail.
Deliberate breaking of the law and baiting the police.
Too bad there is no footage of them getting tazed....


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Gee Wally, how come the law isn't only for other people??
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If the law is asinine, it shouldn't be for anyone, not even other people.
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I'd take the stand down. No way I'd actually APOLOGIZE to anyone, let alone a piece of filth in a blue uniform.

As far as enforcing the law, the people tasked with enforcing laws are just as much of a problem as the law itself. If no one was willing to enforce a law, the law would be as good as void.
Please, aren't we done with the tough guy ghetto talk? Seriously? The other day you were just talking about punching a boss in the nose for firing you for something you considered wrong. I'll bet when push comes to shove, you wouldn't have the guts to stand on your own and be crying to the filth in a blue uniform for protection.

And that would be fine until someone decides to selectively NOT enforce a law you deem necessary and then you'd squeal like a stuck pig. Cops should NOT be allowed to selectively enforce laws or not. That is what the courts are for. You'd be fine not enforcing this law but how about one that affects your income? Think you'd go for a cop deciding to do this or not do that on a whim?
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Frankly, my tolerance for BS is a lot higher than most Americans' -- I very seldom go for help to the cops. And the one time when I did need help, they were most likely complicit in my vehicle being stolen from impound and exported. Less useful than nipples on a boar.

I take a dim view of cops, especially those in the DC area who seem to be more interested in harassing people and breaking up demonstrations than actually helping ordinary people.
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As far as enforcing the law, the people tasked with enforcing laws are just as much of a problem as the law itself.
The only problem is when they go beyond what they are tasked to do and get into the "power trip" and violate the rights of the citizen in a huge way. We've seen plenty of that.

But, if they simply enforce the laws as written, no more, and no less, I'm perfectly fine with that.

Your solution without police is patently ridiculous.
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Please, aren't we done with the tough guy ghetto talk? Seriously? The other day you were just talking about punching a boss in the nose for firing you for something you considered wrong. I'll bet when push comes to shove, you wouldn't have the guts to stand on your own and be crying to the filth in a blue uniform for protection.

And that would be fine until someone decides to selectively NOT enforce a law you deem necessary and then you'd squeal like a stuck pig. Cops should NOT be allowed to selectively enforce laws or not. That is what the courts are for. You'd be fine not enforcing this law but how about one that affects your income? Think you'd go for a cop deciding to do this or not do that on a whim?
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The only problem is when they go beyond what they are tasked to do and get into the "power trip" and violate the rights of the citizen in a huge way. We've seen plenty of that.

But, if they simply enforce the laws as written, no more, and no less, I'm perfectly fine with that.

Your solution without police is patently ridiculous.
My solution wouldn't involve "no cops." My solution would involve "overworked, understaffed cops that wouldn't have time to enforce trivial crap, since they'd be fully occupied with serious crimes." Sort of like NYC was in the 80s, where no one cared about firework salesmen in Chinatown or "quality of life" crimes.

And yeah, I'm willing to put up with a higher risk of being murdered or mugged for a degree of freedom.
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Old 07-06-2013, 11:34 AM
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Frankly, my tolerance for BS is a lot higher than most Americans' -- I very seldom go for help to the cops. And the one time when I did need help, they were most likely complicit in my vehicle being stolen from impound and exported. Less useful than nipples on a boar.

I take a dim view of cops, especially those in the DC area who seem to be more interested in harassing people and breaking up demonstrations than actually helping ordinary people.
Most likely complicit? You established that accusation, how? Just because they are lazy or irresponsible doesn't make them complicit.

Then get laws passed to allow these sort of things like lemonade stands to exist.
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