Using the "N" word in public - Page 2 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

Skid Row Joe · #16 09-22-2013, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Murrell

I don't know if this is still going on in the military, but back in the Vietnam war era, blacks would constantly call each other the "N" word. If a white used that word, all hell broke loose.

That's basically what some are looking for anyway......anything to fight, all for no reason. Lot 'O fools out there.

Mike Murrell · #17 09-22-2013, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe

That's basically what some are looking for anyway......anything to fight, all for no reason. Lot 'O fools out there.

As SELLC said....the double stds. of reverse racism.

cmac2012 · #18 09-22-2013, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Diesel911

African American, Afro American, Italian American, Irish American, Native American.... seems like a rather common combination of words.

A lot of Hispanic People in My area don't get a long well with the Black People unless they know each other as neighbors. Saying something like that in a Crowd of People you don't know in My area would be asking for a confrontation.

I'm sorta of on the edge of PC trouble in saying this, but in my experience, a lot of Latinos have a different view on these things. On one of the bigger construction jobs I worked on, one of the foreman was an Asian mix - Indian, Chinese and I forget what else but he looked somewhat Chinese. The Mexican guys called him 'Chino.' They didn't bat an eye at it. Imagine any sort of non-Mexican guy calling a latino 'Mexican' as a nickname.

I've read numerous accounts of Latinos behaving with seriously racist attitudes towards blacks. Prison fights along those lines are brutal.

t walgamuth · #19 09-22-2013, 03:03 PM

I had a roof replaced for a long time client a couple of weeks ago. The owner of the company was Caucasian. The crew had a young black man as the foreman and the rest appeared to be Mexican. The young black man was extremely courteous to me and to his workers. The Mexican men were very very verbal, kidding each other and the foreman constantly, including the subject of race. I did not see any tension but I suppose it may have been there just under the surface. They all worked very hard and with a lot of skill. I was impressed.

davidmash · #20 09-22-2013, 03:06 PM

I do not see it as a double standard, at least not in the manner being described here.

I am sure most of us have had situations where we have cursed a family member under our breath or got in a fight with a sibling. No big deal. Let someone out side the family dk the same and we get all decensive.

Maming fun or joking about ones "own kind" is OK. When you make fun of others especially as a white person given our history things change. Kind of like a KKK member making a jok e about blacks as opposed to Cosby making the same joke. I doubt the intent would be the same.

Jorn · #21 09-22-2013, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Murrell

I don't know if this is still going on in the military, but back in the Vietnam war era, blacks would constantly call each other the "N" word. If a white used that word, all hell broke loose.

They have every right to call them selfs what ever they want, whites calling blacks n****** has a complete different meaning. Words get their meaning by the individual who uses the word. That some white people don't seem to understand this tells more about them and how they see blacks.

The word n****** in the OP's post was used in an "affectional" way towards a player on the same team, had nothing to do with racism; was it in good taste, I don't think so. But understandable, as it looks to me they were immigrants who don't carry the burden of that word.

Some of the repliers to OP's post have posted much worse racist posts here on PP then the people on the side line displayed, all the parents did was displaying awful judgement.

elchivito · #22 09-22-2013, 03:21 PM

I'm reminded of soldiers and sports team members (male) calling themselves "girls" or "ladies". Nobody seems to bat an eye at that one, though it denigrates women.

Personally, I think bigots love looking for chances to holler "reverse racism". Not that it doesn't exist, but finding it seems to somehow justify their own prejudice.

Jorn · #23 09-22-2013, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by cmac2012

I've read numerous accounts of Latinos behaving with seriously racist attitudes towards blacks. Prison fights along those lines are brutal.

That has to do with turf and low paid jobs; blacks are pushed out of traditional black neighborhoods by new latino immigrants. This is nothing new, the same thing happened between Italians and Jews, Irish and blacks, Italians and Irish, etc etc.

elchivito · #24 09-22-2013, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jorn

That has to do with turf and low paid jobs; blacks are pushed out of traditional black neighborhoods by new latino immigrants. This is nothing new, the same thing happened between Italians and Jews, Irish and blacks, Italians and Irish, etc etc.

spot on

Jorn · #25 09-22-2013, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by elchivito

Personally, I think bigots love looking for chances to holler "reverse racism". Not that it doesn't exist, but finding it seems to somehow justify their own prejudice.

Yep, it's like males that get offended when you call them gay.

Skid Row Joe · #26 09-22-2013, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth

I had a roof replaced for a long time client a couple of weeks ago. The owner of the company was Caucasian. The crew had a young black man as the foreman and the rest appeared to be Mexican. The young black man was extremely courteous to me and to his workers. The Mexican men were very very verbal, kidding each other and the foreman constantly, including the subject of race. I did not see any tension but I suppose it may have been there just under the surface. They all worked very hard and with a lot of skill. I was impressed.

Well, actually it sounds more like they may have been putting on an act for you.

Rather normal activity in the hierarchy you described. May in fact be underpaid worker bees doing the well rehearsed parts of 'acting-the-fool' when their boss's paymaster is present. Doing the 'bit-part' acting as if they 'really like' their job for the guy paying their boss......

tbomachines · #27 09-22-2013, 04:12 PM

Mtu, I support your position and think you did the right thing -- might not count for much in the thread but figured I'd also fist bump you

davidmash · #28 09-22-2013, 04:28 PM

I do not see it as a double standard, at least not in the manner being described here.

I am sure most of us have had situations where we have cursed a family member under our breath or got in a fight with a sibling. No big deal. Let someone out side the family dk the same and we get all decensive.

Maming fun or joking about ones "own kind" is OK. When you make fun of others especially as a white person given our history things change. Kind of like a KKK member making a jok e about blacks as opposed to Cosby making the same joke. I doubt the intent would be the same.

t walgamuth · #29 09-22-2013, 04:34 PM

People often make comments about folks with a lot of German ancestry being stubborn and bossy. True, True. I don't like it when my family says it. I like it less when someone else says it. The only time I don't mind is when I say it.

cmac2012 · #30 09-22-2013, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jorn

That has to do with turf and low paid jobs; blacks are pushed out of traditional black neighborhoods by new latino immigrants. This is nothing new, the same thing happened between Italians and Jews, Irish and blacks, Italians and Irish, etc etc.

Well put.