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Old 09-21-2013, 11:24 PM
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Using the "N" word in public

I was the side judge in my sons soccer game this evening. One family watching it's son started calling out to him and then one of the family members started yelling "Go Nig**er! Run Nig**er"- and everyone around them heard this. The "crowd" was scare- no much more than say 60 people. I turned around and told them (with an outside voice) in no uncertain terms that using the " "N" word " was unacceptable in public. (The family was dark skinned Hispanics.One member was very dark- most were medium, two were lighter skinned.) I told them I was very offended with the term even if they were not. One person in the family appeared to want to make an argument about what I said but did not do so. I kinda knew one of the family members- he was the one who attended practices- the child was on my team. When the game was over I fist bumped with the member I knew and all seemed fine, at least with him. The others gave a me a stink eye.

Was I out of line? Do you think dark skinned people can use the term in public but not light skinned people? Can a light skinned person tell a dark skinned person to not use the term in public?

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Old 09-21-2013, 11:35 PM
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I think you're fine - you don't have to be dark skinned to be offended. And certainly in a family setting there is no place for such ignorance. Good for you that you stood up to it - too often you hear the 'N' word, or kids calling one another b*itch, f*uck and so on - without any regard for families around them. And their parents are equally stupid for allowing such behavior.
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Old 09-21-2013, 11:42 PM
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Old 09-21-2013, 11:55 PM
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You have been exposed to the double standard of reverse racism MTUpower!

Embrace it because there is a whole lot of it going on and I only see it getting worse.

Let's break it down. Back in the 80's when I looked up the word ****** the dictionary read - "An uneducated person" - slang / derogatory "A black person". This is straight out of an elementary school dictionary back in the 80's when I was a student looking up bad words on Library hour.

At first blacks were referred to as Negro's. The term Negro is often associated with "Black", be it a person or a car. The black community then decided they did not like this and wanted to be called "Colored" people. They decided this too was somewhat offensive and not exclusive enough, so then we went back to the term "Black" person, rather than "Negro".

Now they wish to be called "African Americans" which is disrespectful to the nation they live. I'd guess that more than 80% of these so called "African Americans" were born in the USA making them "American-Africans".

Seems to me that only an uneducated person could mix up their own birthplace, but what the hell do I know!
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Old 09-22-2013, 12:24 AM
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Come on now William...did that really happen to you?
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Old 09-22-2013, 12:33 AM
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I was the side judge in my sons soccer game this evening. One family watching it's son started calling out to him and then one of the family members started yelling "Go Nig**er! Run Nig**er"- and everyone around them heard this. The "crowd" was scare- no much more than say 60 people. I turned around and told them (with an outside voice) in no uncertain terms that using the " "N" word " was unacceptable in public. (The family was dark skinned Hispanics.One member was very dark- most were medium, two were lighter skinned.) I told them I was very offended with the term even if they were not. One person in the family appeared to want to make an argument about what I said but did not do so. I kinda knew one of the family members- he was the one who attended practices- the child was on my team. When the game was over I fist bumped with the member I knew and all seemed fine, at least with him. The others gave a me a stink eye.

Was I out of line? Do you think dark skinned people can use the term in public but not light skinned people? Can a light skinned person tell a dark skinned person to not use the term in public?
Yes, and you should. However, you risk personal threatening behavior or violence committed against you when you do so.

I don't know about the high-fiving, and the badazz look you got, but when you do OR say anything controversial in public, do not be surprised on any resulting situations.

In my youth, the legal term for black-skinned race people in America was; Negroid, or Negro. That term describing one's race was changed on legal forms at some point to the term; 'black,' instead.

The use of the term; ni**er is used by people of their own free will, and I would not want to see that curtailed. I believe in freedom of speech in America.
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African American, Afro American, Italian American, Irish American, Native American.... seems like a rather common combination of words.

A lot of Hispanic People in My area don't get a long well with the Black People unless they know each other as neighbors. Saying something like that in a Crowd of People you don't know in My area would be asking for a confrontation.
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Old 09-22-2013, 03:41 AM
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I was the side judge in my sons soccer game this evening. One family watching it's son started calling out to him and then one of the family members started yelling "Go Nig**er! Run Nig**er"- and everyone around them heard this. The "crowd" was scare- no much more than say 60 people. I turned around and told them (with an outside voice) in no uncertain terms that using the " "N" word " was unacceptable in public. (The family was dark skinned Hispanics.One member was very dark- most were medium, two were lighter skinned.) I told them I was very offended with the term even if they were not. One person in the family appeared to want to make an argument about what I said but did not do so. I kinda knew one of the family members- he was the one who attended practices- the child was on my team. When the game was over I fist bumped with the member I knew and all seemed fine, at least with him. The others gave a me a stink eye.

Was I out of line? Do you think dark skinned people can use the term in public but not light skinned people? Can a light skinned person tell a dark skinned person to not use the term in public?
Hispanic People might be any Mix of Caucasian, Black and Native Americans or other races; or even be just Caucasian; and, I guess that includes Myself somewhere in that.

If they were not using the "N" word to cheer on one of their their own Children of Family Members I would say it was clearly impolite.
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Die Hard With a Vengence Harlem scene . . .
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Old 09-22-2013, 12:27 PM
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Die Hard With a Vengence Harlem scene . . .
I would like to comment but I either don't remember what transpired in the scene or did not see the Movie.
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Old 09-22-2013, 12:29 PM
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I would like to comment but I either don't remember what transpired in the scene or did not see the Movie.
Really? With Samuel L. Jackson, it's one of the better of the franchise.
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I think you're fine - you don't have to be dark skinned to be offended...
If memory serves, MTU is dark skinned. Either that or members of his family are. Or maybe I just imagined all of that. (I hope my comments do not come off as disrespectful. I certainly mean no disrespect.)

As for the question in the OP, I think you had to be there, but MTU's actions seem OK to me.
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I don't know if this is still going on in the military, but back in the Vietnam war era, blacks would constantly call each other the "N" word. If a white used that word, all hell broke loose.
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Old 09-22-2013, 12:53 PM
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Richard Pryor had an explanation in his stand up routine about the inconsistency

White people don't say it nicely

His outlook changed over the course of his career http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/15/opinion/15iht-edjackson.html?_r=0

"To this day I wish I'd never said the word. I felt its lameness. It was misunderstood by people. They didn't get what I was talking about. Neither did I. ... So I vowed never to say it again."

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