huskeyman, you sound like a nightmare of a customer.

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have no worries.....President Obama swears "If you like your gun, you can keep it

That's kinda been my thinking.

BTW, just saw your sig, and in the spirit of it, yo momma wears combat boots .

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1982 300SD -- 211k, Texas car, tranny issues ____ 1979 240D 4-speed 234k -- turbo and tuned IP, third world taxi hot rod

2 Samuel 12:13: "David said to Nathan, “I have sinned against the Lord.” And Nathan said to David, “The Lord also has put away your sin; you shall not die."

I wouldn't say I'm a nightmare, but I certainly expect performance. I've learned to ask the right questions before hiring anyone for anything. I have twelve bookshelves of books on just about every imaginable subject you could think of. Before I go see a doctor, a mechanic, welder, whoever, I whip out the books and sit down with a cup of coffee and read awhile.

When I arrive at the doctors, mechanics or whoever they can readily see I don't have the words "Schmuck" or "Chump" engraved into my fore head. They darn well know I know some and in some cases ALL of their business.

One doctor once told me, "You ask too many questions". I replied, "Doc, if it was YOUR body, wouldn't you want to know?????"

And you know as much as the doctor and mechanic, among others with the 12 bookshelves of books? How many books do you really have to know all that much? I would think even a major library doesn't have as much as you need to know as much as the other party.

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06 Polaris Sportsman 500 EFI
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04 Tailgator 21 ft Toy Hauler
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there is nothing so dangerous to themselves and easy to take advantage of as a person who knows just a little about a subject, and thinks they are informed.

Especially when you are trying to get just a hair of information out of a book that it took a professional 5-10 years of schooling and experience to become proficient in.


Personally, I do everything large contractually, major items I have a lawyer draw up a contract, I don't do anything with a handshake, and heres why-

A handshake is fine if everything goes swimmingly, but the minute something goes wrong, its a disaster of unknowns. I worked for a boss who had at a minimum of what I know 4 deals going at the same time with no contract, one to sell his business, one to start a different one with a friend of his, one to remain an advisor in the original company, and some other nonsense regarding some equipment. I believe an RV was part of an complex trade handshake deal.

Everything was going fine until the start of the downturn, and suddenly there was no money. The company that was buying his company lost its investors, the company that he was starting, the friend of his already had a bunch of his money and kept it, the first company dropped the whole deal and sued the boss for the deposit already given, and the guy trading equipment kept the equipment and never delivered the RV.

Ultimately everyone sued everyone, of course all these bone heads who should have had lawyers draw up clear contracts in the first place suddenly went screaming to lawyers and yelling about how bad lawyers are that they couldn't be easily and cheapy removed from this quagmire.

I was a principle employee of the first guy, and unbeknownst to me, I and 3 other key employees were being "sold" as part of the business to the buying company without consultation to us, based on this handshake deal between our boss and the buying company. I didn't escape completely unscathed, as what little was written down specifically mentioned myself and my coworkers, so I also had to lawyer up as now I was suddenly involved. It was a nightmare. I quit and got the hell out of dodge as things fell apart.


Concerning cash only no reciept, I avoid those places as the implication is its a friend type deal both ways. I walk into a place for the first time, im not the guys friend, and I prefer a professional relationship. I give you a wad of cash, you give me a document that says I gave you a wad of cash for services to be performed. We both know where we stand. Your desire to evade income tax is not my problem.

I won't be your friend in helping you do that, and ill take my business somewhere else where I don't give a stranger money and expect to be part of their tax evasion when I take all the risk. Thats effectively what this person is asking of you, "help me evade my taxes and trust me completely when you don't know me".

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As was said before. Another way to say "fawk you" is "trust me".

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03 SeaDoo GTX SC Red
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Yellow
04 Tailgator 21 ft Toy Hauler
11 Harley Davidson 883 SuperLow

There is another option, and it's generally been the one that I have encountered, namely 'my way or the highway'....
Almost every place I have dealt with in a cash only kind of environment were the very best at what they did, and if you didn't want to trust them, no hide off their back, just go someplace else.
Of course if you are like some posters here, they will likely send you away regardless, as suffering fools is not their milieu either.
I encounter these kinds of places almost exclusively at the recommendation of a friend. I always mention the connection at first meeting.

Also, most every place of this nature that I have dealt with will give you a receipt if you need one. Hand written. That's all you need to get repaid if you're doing an insurance job or some such.

Not sure if the prevailing intent is to dodge income tax, or if they just don't want to deal with checks and credit cards.

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1983 300SD - 305000
1984 Toyota Landcruiser - 190000
1994 GMC Jimmy - 203000

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Follow the bouncing rubber check. Some people make a habit of writing hot checks to merchants. When the merchant is notified by their bank a customer's check has bounced, the merchant then has to go about trying to collect on it.

The customer may have closed THEIR bank account (making it really difficult to collect on the bounced check) or the merchant may have to spend $200 to collect on a $50 rubber bounced check. Plus, the merchant then has to endure the hassle of it all and it doesn't end up with the merchant and the customer being friends, either.

Credit card processing. A merchant pays fees for the privilege of accepting credit cards. These fees are over and above the price of the products/services the merchant is selling. This adds to the cost of doing business. Someone has to eat these costs and that someone is the one tendering the credit card in the name of "convenience". In addition to these issues, a customer can easily complain to their credit company that they didn't receive the service/goods/products they were promised, yadda yadda yadda which then can become a real hassle for the merchant.

Cash. No risk for the merchant because cash doesn't bounce. No fees from credit card processing companies either. Customer doesn't have to worry about a credit card bill coming in the mail either.

Merchant provides products/services, customer tenders cash in exchange and everyone goes away happy.

But what you are talking about is something else. I have no issue (other than I never carry cash) with a business that says "I'm tired of hot checks and I don't want to deal with credit card companies so cash only.". However when you say "cash only, no receipt" and this is the first time I am talking to you, it certainly does throw up a lot of red flags. My question is why you would be so eager to do cash only with no receipt? How do I know you are not an IRS agent or will report me? Could it be that you figure I will be gone by the time someone gets close? IDK. It certainly becomes highly suspicious when you do that the first time. OTOH, if we have worked well for the last few years, I won't be as suspicious if the rate were much cheaper. First time? No thanks.

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01 Ford Excursion Powerstroke
99 E300 Turbodiesel
91 Vette with 383 motor
05 Polaris Sportsman 800 EFI
06 Polaris Sportsman 500 EFI
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Red
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Yellow
04 Tailgator 21 ft Toy Hauler
11 Harley Davidson 883 SuperLow

I assumed he was directing his comment toward cmb's tire guy. Sorry if I misunderstood.

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1982 300SD -- 211k, Texas car, tranny issues ____ 1979 240D 4-speed 234k -- turbo and tuned IP, third world taxi hot rod

2 Samuel 12:13: "David said to Nathan, “I have sinned against the Lord.” And Nathan said to David, “The Lord also has put away your sin; you shall not die."

Uh, OK.......in former post: So, then what happened?

Did you not ask him; "why no receipt, cash only?" if not, why?

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Let's examine further why he is being told this. The basic premise is this: "We provide little to no customer service at this establishment, now bend over and take it like we give it to you". Who needs or wants that? He should walk away and find another machine shop who will step forward with a 'customer first' attitude. I have a long list of businesses I have placed on the loser list. The first time they kick me in the nuts, I carefully analyze the situation.

I think to myself, "Well Husky, perhaps they were having a bad day, or perhaps the guy is behind on his rent and suffering from stress, whatever". I then will normally give them a second and a third opportunity to step up to the plate and play PROFESSIONAL baseball. If they continue to drop the ball, I drop them.

When the OP returns to answer, I'll pick it up from there......thx.

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Originally Posted by HuskyMan Let's examine further why he is being told this. The basic premise is this: "We provide little to no customer service at this establishment, now bend over and take it like we give it to you". Who needs or wants that? He should walk away and find another machine shop who will step forward with a 'customer first' attitude. I have a long list of businesses I have placed on the loser list. The first time they kick me in the nuts, I carefully analyze the situation. I think to myself, "Well Husky, perhaps they were having a bad day, or perhaps the guy is behind on his rent and suffering from stress, whatever". I then will normally give them a second and a third opportunity to step up to the plate and play PROFESSIONAL baseball. If they continue to drop the ball, I drop them.

Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out

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On some nights I still believe that a car with the fuel gauge on empty can run about fifty more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. - HST

1983 300SD - 305000
1984 Toyota Landcruiser - 190000
1994 GMC Jimmy - 203000

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I"ll walk out alright and then go straight to work steering mucho grande business AWAY from them or, if someone I don't like asks me if I know where they can find a high quality machine shop I give them a direct referral so they can get some real bad machine work performed on their tin can cars. Either way, I WIN.