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spdrun · #16 11-14-2013, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by HuskyMan

Scope, tri or bipod mount, breathe slowly then take careful aim and pull the trigger slowly. Remember to lead the vehicle slightly due to the fact that it IS MOVING. Then, quickly cycle the bolt action to eject the cartridge and reload. Reacquire the target, breathe slowly, take careful aim, squeeze the trigger slowly. Now, do it all again. All in three seconds.

Maybe Oswald was actually a cyborg from the future with superhuman capabilities...

HuskyMan · #17 11-14-2013, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by spdrun

Maybe Oswald was actually a cyborg from the future with superhuman capabilities...

Since Ruby conveniently offed him and dead men don't talk, we'll never hear his story, in or out of court. Case closed, as always.

nate300d · #18 11-14-2013, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by HuskyMan

Scope, tri or bipod mount, breathe slowly then take careful aim and pull the trigger slowly. Remember to lead the vehicle slightly due to the fact that it IS MOVING. Then, quickly cycle the bolt action to eject the cartridge and reload. Reacquire the target, breathe slowly, take careful aim, squeeze the trigger slowly. Now, do it all again. All in three seconds.

I do not recall any mount being involved.

Dudesky · #19 11-14-2013, 01:23 PM

If the jacketed bullet went through Kennedy and Connolly and hit bone and stayed intact, even through 48" of pine.......why didn't it travel through and through his skull instead of disintegrating totally?

nate300d · #20 11-14-2013, 01:25 PM

The other side of the coin is with the testing/reconstruction that was done it done appear the one bullet was from the front.

HuskyMan · #21 11-14-2013, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by nate300d

I do not recall any mount being involved.

Exactly my point; for this type of precision shooting, a mount is a necessity. I believe the people behind the assassination knew they would never get a second chance. So they carried it out using multiple shooters using a classic military sniper style triangulated cross fire method. Once the car crossed into the kill zone, they let loose.

Craig Smith talks about this in much deeper detail in his book:

Kill Zone: A Sniper Looks at Dealey Plaza: Craig Roberts: 9780963906205: Amazon.com: Books

Dudesky · #22 11-14-2013, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by spdrun

I'm agreeing with the conclusions of the show

I think if you saw this presentation, you might think differently.

REELZChannel | JFK: The Smoking Gun

JFK: The Smoking Gun

Txjake · #23 11-14-2013, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dudesky

If the jacketed bullet went through Kennedy and Connolly and hit bone and stayed intact, even through 48" of pine.......why didn't it travel through and through his skull instead of disintegrating totally?

some say because the final shot was fired from an AR-15 (5.56mm) in the Secret Service car following the President's car and it was an accidental discharge

Kennedy Was Killed by Accidental Secret Service Shot | Alternative

Dudesky · #24 11-14-2013, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Txjake

some say because the final shot was fired from an AR-15 (5.56mm) in the Secret Service car following the President's car and it was an accidental discharge

Kennedy Was Killed by Accidental Secret Service Shot | Alternative

Get access to the show I linked.....he proves it with forensics.

He shows a hole about 6mm in the back of JFK's head and the hole in his back about 7mm all documented at autopsy.
5.56 and 6.5 mm.

Secret service....Ooops.

t walgamuth · #25 11-14-2013, 02:56 PM

What caliber is an ar 15? would it have had ordinary lead bullets and not full metal jackets?

Mike Murrell · #26 11-14-2013, 04:36 PM

Civilian equal is. 223

panZZer · #27 11-14-2013, 04:47 PM

The explanation about why his head flew back on the last shot--- no way i buy this, and never will.
Its safe to say most everyone here knows how people / mammals behave when they are shot. This would be the first time that someones nerves made them behave in the way explained.
ive been there more than a few times--in the museum etc.
I was born one floor from where they took him 75 days from when it happened.

panZZer · #28 11-14-2013, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by panZZer

The explanation about why his head flew back on the last shot--- no way i buy this, and never will.
Its safe to say most everyone here knows how people / mammals behave when they are shot. This would be the first time that someones nerves made them behave in the way explained.
ive been there more than a few times--in the museum etc.
I was born one floor from where they took him 75 days from when it happened.

The Secrets of the Dead episode that followed was possibly the most worthless waste of effort put into any show recently.
All about Walter kronkite and being first to have the exclusive -deliver the news.
who could care less?????

Jorn · #29 11-14-2013, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by P.C.

I was in the former Texas School Book Depository about 10 years ago, standing at a window one floor directly below Oswald's alleged firing position. If you had any degree of firearm proficiency, it was like shooting fish in a barrel. Dealey Plaza is a lot more compact than it appears to be in photos or movies.

That's what a friend told me last week, that he was surprised of how small the area was where it all happened. That what he had seen on TV was deceptive.

pj67coll · #30 11-14-2013, 05:57 PM

Where does the timeline of two or three seconds come from? The investigations I've heard of all say between 4.5 and 8 seconds. Which is certainly possible for a competent marksman.

- Peter.