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Hatterasguy · #1 12-18-2013, 07:45 PM

Alcohol in this country was illegal, now its legal. Same for a lot of hard drugs. Cocaine used to be legal.

I don't think you can legislate substance abuse.

Driving over the speed limit is against the law, and any driver who says they have never done that is flat out lying.

Your also never going to stop the flow of drugs, where their is money to be made someone, somewhere will figure out a way to serve that market. That's capitalism 101.

All we can control is what happens to those people after they become addicted.

1. We can send them to jail. This is the current method and IMHO the results are less than desirable. In jail they brush up on all sorts of bad ideas, like how to be better criminals and make criminal friends, join gangs etc. When they get out, they are still addicts though.

2. Another option is to just shoot them. I don't think that's a very good one.

3. Treat them somehow, maybe some other countries like Portugal can show us how that might look.

I think at least in this country you have an element that glorifies criminal activity. So if you remove that from the drugs, IE put them in say treatment programs away from the regular criminals you might be able to separate the two and maybe make drugs less appealing to younger people to get involved with.

duxthe1 · #2 12-18-2013, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Hatterasguy

I don't think you can legislate substance abuse.

Reminds me of a quote from Abraham Lincoln...

“Prohibition... goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes... A prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded.”

Diesel911 · #3 12-18-2013, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Hatterasguy

Alcohol in this country was illegal, now its legal. Same for a lot of hard drugs. Cocaine used to be legal.

I don't think you can legislate substance abuse.

Driving over the speed limit is against the law, and any driver who says they have never done that is flat out lying.

Your also never going to stop the flow of drugs, where their is money to be made someone, somewhere will figure out a way to serve that market. That's capitalism 101.

All we can control is what happens to those people after they become addicted.

1. We can send them to jail. This is the current method and IMHO the results are less than desirable. In jail they brush up on all sorts of bad ideas, like how to be better criminals and make criminal friends, join gangs etc. When they get out, they are still addicts though.

2. Another option is to just shoot them. I don't think that's a very good one.

3. Treat them somehow, maybe some other countries like Portugal can show us how that might look.

I think at least in this country you have an element that glorifies criminal activity. So if you remove that from the drugs, IE put them in say treatment programs away from the regular criminals you might be able to separate the two and maybe make drugs less appealing to younger people to get involved with.

I have not read one mention of prevention.
Hard Drugs although not as many and Weed have been available for a long time.

No one has commented on what kept the majority of People in the Past from becoming Drug Addicts.
Up until about 1960 illegal drug use except in large Cities was not prolific like it is now.

What I believe has happened is that in freeing themselves from Religious, Moral and legal Obligations People have Assassinated themselves.

It is our culture here in the "Land of Opportunity" that the Individual is expected to take care of themselves when they have problems and that no one else is supposed to "Foot the Bill" for someone else.

At one time sending People to Jail used to work. But, that was when few People wanted to be Crimminals and some of the Crimminals had enough intelligence to change.
Neither is the case now.

Botnst · #4 12-19-2013, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Diesel911

I have not read one mention of prevention.
Hard Drugs although not as many and Weed have been available for a long time.

No one has commented on what kept the majority of People in the Past from becoming Drug Addicts.
Up until about 1960 illegal drug use except in large Cities was not prolific like it is now.

What I believe has happened is that in freeing themselves from Religious, Moral and legal Obligations People have Assassinated themselves.

It is our culture here in the "Land of Opportunity" that the Individual is expected to take care of themselves when they have problems and that no one else is supposed to "Foot the Bill" for someone else.

At one time sending People to Jail used to work. But, that was when few People wanted to be Crimminals and some of the Crimminals had enough intelligence to change.
Neither is the case now.

I think you're on the right track here.

Jim B. · #5 01-05-2014, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Diesel911

I have not read one mention of prevention.
Hard Drugs although not as many and Weed have been available for a long time.

No one has commented on what kept the majority of People in the Past from becoming Drug Addicts.
Up until about 1960 illegal drug use except in large Cities was not prolific like it is now.

What I believe has happened is that in freeing themselves from Religious, Moral and legal Obligations People have Assassinated themselves.

It is our culture here in the "Land of Opportunity" that the Individual is expected to take care of themselves when they have problems and that no one else is supposed to "Foot the Bill" for someone else.

At one time sending People to Jail used to work. But, that was when few People wanted to be Crimminals and some of the Crimminals had enough intelligence to change.
Neither is the case now.

William Somerset: I just don't think I can continue to live in a place that embraces and nurtures apathy as if it was virtue.

David Mills: You're no different. You're no better.

William Somerset: I didn't say I was different or better. I'm not. Hell, I sympathize; I sympathize completely. Apathy is the solution. I mean, it's easier to lose yourself in drugs than it is to cope with life. It's easier to steal what you want than it is to earn it. It's easier to beat a child than it is to raise it. Hell, love costs: it takes effort and work.

~~~"Seven" (1995)

engatwork · #6 01-05-2014, 08:46 AM

NY news

Looks like Cuomo is getting on the bandwagon.

One of the things I find ironic is the fact that Feds are telling the banks there will be repercussions if they handle legal pot sales green paper but they don't seem to have any problem taking their slice. All the the pols will be jumping on it when they realize how much green paper it will generate for them.