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Old 01-31-2014, 08:08 AM
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One less career megalomaniac in D.C. Here's to more retirements!
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Old 01-31-2014, 08:31 AM
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One less career megalomaniac in D.C. Here's to more retirements!
Another domino about to fall?


The retirement of two of Nancy Pelosi's closest confidants is raising questions about whether the House Democratic leader's reign could be nearing an end.

The pending departures of Reps. George Miller and Henry Waxman mean Pelosi will have to do without her most trusted lieutenants if she decides to run again as Democratic leader.


The two fellow California Democrats helped engineer the major achievements of her speakership on healthcare and climate change, and could be counted on during good times and bad.

One former Democratic leadership aide described the loss as “a substantial changing of the guard” – a transition stirring speculation Pelosi will not stay on as leader despite her insistence that her work is not done.

“I have to think she's gone in '15 since it does not look like they take the House back,” the former leadership aide said.**

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...“I have to think she's gone in '15 since it does not look like they take the House back,” the former leadership aide said.**...
I read somewhere that Pelosi has been ready to retire for a while but was convinced to stay. Maybe the departures of Miller and Waxman will nudge her more in the retirement direction. History will consider her among the all-time greats in the House of Representatives.
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Old 01-31-2014, 10:20 AM
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I dunno about that. Waxman's supporters make a strong case: 32 Laws Waxman Helped Craft That Touched The Lives Of Every American
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Old 01-31-2014, 10:41 AM
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I dunno about that. Waxman's supporters make a strong case: 32 Laws Waxman Helped Craft That Touched The Lives Of Every American
If they're there long enough, there ought to be plenty of folks pleased with their (hat trick!) tenure and able to point to favorable legislation.

I just happen to thing it's way too long. That's just my piddly, insignificant opinion.

There are just as many entrenched Grand Old Pharts that I'd love to see put out to pasture.
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Old 01-31-2014, 10:45 AM
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...I just happen to thing it's way too long. That's just my piddly, insignificant opinion...
Oh, yeah? Well, keep it to yourself.

I'm not entirely comfortable with having the country run by career politicians, but that is way low on my list of concerns. The problems in Washington, it seems to me, come from the newcomers more than the old timers. Frank Wolf (R Va), for example, has been in Congress for an eternity and he is just a tremendous public servant. People like Wolf and Waxman are not the problem, IMHO.
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Old 01-31-2014, 10:56 AM
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Oh, yeah? Well, keep it to yourself.

I'm not entirely comfortable with having the country run by career politicians, but that is way low on my list of concerns. The problems in Washington, it seems to me, come from the newcomers more than the old timers. Frank Wolf (R Va), for example, has been in Congress for an eternity and he is just a tremendous public servant. People like Wolf and Waxman are not the problem, IMHO.
Sorry.

It's not high on my priority list either but it's there.

Family and business keep my mind occupied enough.
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Oh, yeah? Well, keep it to yourself.

I'm not entirely comfortable with having the country run by career politicians, but that is way low on my list of concerns. The problems in Washington, it seems to me, come from the newcomers more than the old timers. Frank Wolf (R Va), for example, has been in Congress for an eternity and he is just a tremendous public servant. People like Wolf and Waxman are not the problem, IMHO.
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Old 01-31-2014, 10:53 AM
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I just happen to thing it's way too long. That's just my piddly, insignificant opinion.
Waxman has done a lot of good for the country. But no matter how effective the person, a 40 year tenure is way too long for anyone to be a member of Congress. The desire that we as a culture have on brand familiarity is one of our most harmful attributes. Term limits should be no more than 3 terms for any member of the US or State Congress.

While I want my coffee supplying company to be somewhat consistent, even they change offerings from time to time. I want the state and fed .gov to better respect the Will Of The People and having a person as an effective ritual to a static ideology destroys reasonable and timely progress for the country.
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Old 01-31-2014, 03:39 PM
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Waxman has done a lot of good for the country. But no matter how effective the person, a 40 year tenure is way too long for anyone to be a member of Congress. The desire that we as a culture have on brand familiarity is one of our most harmful attributes. Term limits should be no more than 3 terms for any member of the US or State Congress.

While I want my coffee supplying company to be somewhat consistent, even they change offerings from time to time. I want the state and fed .gov to better respect the Will Of The People and having a person as an effective ritual to a static ideology destroys reasonable and timely progress for the country.
I agree. I've always had 2 terms in my head but 3 is probably a more reasonable amount of time.
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I agree. I've always had 2 terms in my head but 3 is probably a more reasonable amount of time.
1st term -- learn what's going on
2nd term -- work
3rd term -- accumulate power
4th term to the end ---> disburse favors to friends, punish enemies, get rich
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Old 02-03-2014, 10:47 AM
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1st term -- learn what's going on
2nd term -- work
3rd term -- accumulate power
4th term to the end ---> disburse favors to friends, punish enemies, get rich
Sure seems to me the M.O.
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Old 02-03-2014, 06:03 PM
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2nd term -- work
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That has not been my experience. My Congressman has been in office for 33 years, though I have only been in his district for about 18 years. He uses his power, credibility, and influence representing our interests and responding to specific constituents' concerns. I have heard many people from various walks of life comment about their positive experiences dealing with Congressman Wolf's office.

Your description fits some, but not all.
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Old 02-04-2014, 11:04 AM
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3rd term -- accumulate power
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That’s silly. If someone wanted to disburse favors, etc., they could start doing that during about the first week. But that kind of goal is why funding is provided by some that helps get some elected and re-elected time after time.

While three terms is arbitrary, it provides enough time in office so that some other than the uber wealthy and uber connected can serve without damaging their original career plans. The good news is that it would stop people from making a career in federal politics.

I wish it were possible to stop people from making a career working for the .gov in general as on the topic of accumulating power and disbursing favors to friends, that’s where the biggest problem originates.
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40 years. Pffftt.. Ridiculous. If that alone is not a reason for term limits, I don't know what is.
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