Putin was out of the Country. What does he have to do with this anyway?

I believe he already blamed the administration so it will have to be someone new to spark some interest. Maybe Kim Il Sung?

I heard that the Chinese like to buy the land, got something to do with settling a debt. Las Vegas style.

"EAT MORE BEEF.

THE WEST WAS NOT WON BY PEOPLE THAT ATE SALAD."

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Anyone for "due process"? Yes, he appears to be in default, but is it right for the government, "men with guns" to confiscate what the government claims is due?
Lets just kill everyone the government says is doing something wrong.

Confiscating the cattle is the end result of 20 years of due process. 2 years ago he prevented a peaceable removal and since then declared a "range war", prompting the more recent removal with overwhelming force. Between then and now, yet another judge made a ruling against him. He has lost every single appeal, because after all, hes using public land for free to graze a far larger herd than his own land can actually support. Once again, due process has shown him to be entirely in the wrong.

Additionally, confiscation of the animals is pretty darn standard. Thats exactly how herd size is enforced. Back in my fish industry days, fish and game officials confiscating illegal sized catch was a monthly occurance. Its one of the only ways to protect wild stock. You grab stuff too small, you are gonna lose it.
Regarding his herd size, in order to protect the local habitat and his land size, hes limited to 150 head. Nothing prevents him from aquiring more land elsewhere and expanding his herd legally, but no, raising a far larger herd on public land is somehow his right, even though he was paying a fee 20 years ago and decided to stop.

The issues here are very clear and very simple.

He has just as much to do with it as Al Sharpton or the occupy whatever crowd. Straw men to be waved when there is little actual arguement about the real issue.

However, some us here have definitely expressed admiration of Putin's despotic ability to do whatever he wants outside the law, in comparison to our own president who is bound by rule of law. I believe there was some recent putin gushing in some other threads by the forums own victim.

One of my cars has only an AM radio so I was listening to the talk radio station and heard that the IRS siezed assets from 400K americans for debts of their next of kin.

Imagine if your card is declined and it turns out your deadbeat cousin owed the IRS so they confiscated your accounts.

Don't know if it is true but I know it is fair and balanced. They said so.

Doubtful. How was it substantiated?

About as much as Sharpton....:rolleyes:

Geezus man.... The guy has been in default for 20 years....
Try actually reading the court cases and judgements, and then following the timeline. The BLM has long been worried about Bundy getting violent. He has repeatedly threatened armed resistance to the feds moving his cattle off the land or confiscating them.'
Bundy is responsible for the escalation of this issue.
Read the reports, do some research... you will find that your assumptions are wrong.

'Men with guns'.... what else can you expect after not complying with court orders, especially for such an extended time, and while spreading such violent rhetoric???
Imagine what he owed was child support... He refuses to pay. Refuses to acknowledge or respect court orders requiring him to pay. He expresses his willingness to resist violently...
That guy would be cuffed face down in the dirt by as many armed LEO's as it took, and you would probably be the first one to cheer their actions.

I want a dead beat tenant residing in my property evicted. If he arms himself and threatens violence I want them to show up with whatever it takes to get him out. He is stealing from all of us.

I'd say they were way too lenient with him. I get deadbeat tenants out of my property in ten days. You can't rent to a paying tenant if you have a dead beat squatting.

You righties complain about government waste but in this case inexplicably you take the dead beat's side and don't want our government exercising good business practices...?????

LOL

Where do they do that Tom?

Actually they should have kicked him out 19 years ago....apparently.

I am not sure what the Time Period is you need to give after notification of raising the Rent but I am sure you cannot show up one day and say tomarrow the Rent goes up.

Each State's Laws are different and even County Laws are different. Here in Long Beach CA if it would be OK for you to raise the Rent but you need to do it in writing and you are better off with a registered Letter.


After that they have 3 months they can stay even if they choose to stop paying Rent. And, if the Renter takes you to Court they can stay free until the Court decides.

If the Land Loard needs to force the Eviction He needs to have a Marshal and pay a Locksmith to change the Lockes and has to deal with the Junk the Tenent leaves. Also it is not uncommon for Tenents in and Eviction to damage the Rental beyond the Deposit they left.

If the Land Lord wants to He can go to Court and get a Judgement for the lost Rent from the time the Tenent lived free. But, other then selling the Judgment to a Collections Agency for 10 cents on the Dollar it is near impossible to collect the Money unless the Tenent decides to pay.

However, a Judgement does effect the Tenents Credit Rating.