I sure am!

Sometimes we argue in favor of civil disobedience and sometimes against. I have yet to see any consistency from anybody on this forum.

Have you?

I don't believe I have ever argued in favor of civil disobedience in that you should be spared any and all events happening. I agree you can do it like the Chinese guy in Tiananmen Square but when he got squished, oh well.

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I never, ever suggested that.

I merely propose that there are times and circumstances when most of us could imagine conducting civil disobedience.

It's a small step from peaceful to violent.

And another from violent resistance to active revolution.

It happens awfully quickly sometimes. Take deposing the Czar. It took generations of abuse to reach the tipping point but once there, a year or so to execute sweeping revolution.

And it doesn't matter how big the standing army and police maybe. Look at the fall of the Berlin Wall and utter collapse of the USSR and Warsaw Pact. 10 years or even 5 years before, that event was utterly unpredictable.

It will happen in that fashion in the USA when the collapse comes. Men and women who presently could not imagine themselves taking-up arms against their fellow citizens will mow-down the other side. Remember that the bloodiest war we have fought since our founding was the War Between the States. A conflict nobody wanted.

No one got squished in Tiananmen Square.

You're probably right.

From the Wiki:
Official figures

• Some of the early estimates were based on reports of a casualty figure of 2,600 from the Chinese Red Cross, which was quickly retracted.
• On June 6, State Council spokesperson Yuan Mu claimed that preliminary tallies by the government showed that about 300 civilians and soldiers died, including 23 students from universities in Beijing, along with a number of people he described as "ruffians".[135] Some 5,000 soldiers and police along with 2,000 civilians were wounded.
• On June 19, Beijing Party Secretary Li Ximing reported to the Politburo that the government's confirmed death toll was 241, including 218 civilians (including 36 students), 10 PLA soldiers and 13 People's Armed Police, along with 7,000 wounded.[143][144]
• On July 1, Chen Xitong, then Beijing mayor, reported that about 200 civilians and several dozen soldiers died.[145][146]

Cute.....where is the reference to the one guy squished?

Although it has nothing to do with Bundy, there were a number of studets run over by a tank on Liubukou street, adjacent to Tiananmen Square during the 1989 protests.
Plenty other folks been run over by the Chinese military as well, but getting any anti-state story from there is pretty difficult.

You think our government is bad....

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To bad that fellow didn't have a gun.