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Dudesky · #1 04-16-2014, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

Let me ask this. Had he paid his dues, would we be talking about this subject now?

Had he challenged it in court when he was given the invitations, would we be talking about this now?

Or how about not grazing on what you didn't pay for till it is settled?

You go punch someone in the face and he beats your ass, regardless of how severe a beating you get, you started it. You can't drag anything else into the fight.

Another guy been paying his dues:

Estate of E. Wayne Hage v. United States : SCOTUSblog

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In an historic 104-page ruling, Chief Judge Robert C. Jones of the Federal District Court of Nevada has struck a major blow for property rights and, at the same time, has smacked down federal agencies that have been riding roughshod over Western ranchers and property owners. The long-awaited ruling, which had been expected before the end of last year, was finally issued at the end of May. The court case, U.S. v. Hage, has been keenly watched by legal analysts and constitutional scholars — but has been completely ignored by the major media.

Federal Judge Rules for Property Rights, Smacks Down Abusive Feds

This guy won....US is appealing....told him "not to worry, because WE always win in the 9th circuit court of appeals"....

No agenda here....

aklim · #2 04-16-2014, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dudesky

Another guy been paying his dues:

Estate of E. Wayne Hage v. United States : SCOTUSblog

Federal Judge Rules for Property Rights, Smacks Down Abusive Feds

This guy won....US is appealing....told him "not to worry, because WE always win in the 9th circuit court of appeals"....

No agenda here....

Trying to drag a different case to this one? Are you sure they are similar in that they involved the government or are they the exact same, within reason, case?

Further to that, if the rancher can appeal a court ruling, why not the government? Or are you saying that only the citizens can appeal a ruling?

Dudesky · #3 04-16-2014, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

Trying to drag a different case to this one? Are you sure they are similar in that they involved the government or are they the exact same, within reason, case?

Further to that, if the rancher can appeal a court ruling, why not the government? Or are you saying that only the citizens can appeal a ruling?

You said 'what if 'to about 4 or 5 points...and I showed you a 'what if ' guy.

Educate yourself and see.....Judge slapped the US around pretty good.....US comes back and says Hage will lose in the end.....cool.

Notice the little red hilight about no one covering this and other similar cases in MSM?

Bundy gets noticed because MSM can not have anyone challenging their gov't who aren't about to take this crap much longer.....

aklim · #4 04-16-2014, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dudesky

You said 'what if 'to about 4 or 5 points...and I showed you a 'what if ' guy.

Educate yourself and see.....Judge slapped the US around pretty good.....US comes back and says Hage will lose in the end.....cool.

Notice the little red hilight about no one covering this and other similar cases in MSM?

Bundy gets noticed because MSM can not have anyone challenging their gov't who aren't about to take this crap much longer.....

And I am trying to see if how similar it is or whether it is even related.

And? MSM is about selling a story. Flight 370 isn't the main story on CNN. South Korea and the sinking ship is.

Let me guess. A supporter of Obama who controls the media is behind it.

Dudesky · #5 04-16-2014, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

And I am trying to see if how similar it is or whether it is even related.

And? MSM is about selling a story. Flight 370 isn't the main story on CNN. South Korea and the sinking ship is.

Let me guess. A supporter of Obama who controls the media is behind it.

370 went to the back of the bus several weeks ago....not enough drama anymore.

SK- lots of death and survival drama = viewers = commercial income

aklim · #6 04-16-2014, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dudesky

370 went to the back of the bus several weeks ago....not enough drama anymore.

SK- lots of death and survival drama = viewers = commercial income

Exactly. Hence MFM noticed Bundy because it can spin it to sell a story much like the phrase "record profits" about the oil companies a few years ago.

cmbdiesel · #7 04-16-2014, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dudesky

Another guy been paying his dues:

Estate of E. Wayne Hage v. United States : SCOTUSblog

Federal Judge Rules for Property Rights, Smacks Down Abusive Feds

This guy won....US is appealing....told him "not to worry, because WE always win in the 9th circuit court of appeals"....

No agenda here....

Score one for the good guys.
Too bad Bundy isn't one of them...
Maybe you missed this part of your link -
Notably, the court said, "The Government may not abuse its discretion in refusing to renew, or in revoking, a [grazing] privilege."

IIRC, Bundy quit paying. That makes the two cases extremely different.