In some areas of the Country the Criminals are armed about the same as the Police.
The Criminals have an advantage of not having any Rules of Engagement or Policy to follow and can take Hostages if they want to.
The disadvantage the Criminals have is lack of Training and Unit Cohesion and when the Criminals start to lose it becomes "every Man for themselves".
There is also technical stuff like the Poliece in time can come up with sperior Resourses and of couse have better communication.

Also note that during the "Roaring 20s" the Police were using the Thompson Submachine Gun long be fore the US Army adopted them.

The Police can use any Weapons their Force can afford to provide and the Public lets them get away with.

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OWS protested against Fed gov't crapped and pissed all over the place, had rapes and what not and received glowing praise from members of congress and MSM......

Old cowboy flips off Fed gov't and they're all a bunch of domestic terrorists....receive armed intervention and are bad guys via MSM.

[QUOTE=Botnst;3319281]Yes, that's exactly what I am suggesting. Keep police, police. Keep the military, military.

If there's an insurrection send in the military.

Different tools for different jobs. If we give police the training that the military gets then expect a big body count because military training is most definitely not about restraint.[/QUOTE]

Military Training also costs more. Not many Police Forces could afford even the Ammunition Bill or the Fuel Bill the Miltary expends on Training.

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Armored Vehicles can be used as a shield and also to pick up the Wounded safely. So those are life saving things.

Armored Vehicles also can be used as a Power Source to run other equipment and as Mobile Communications Centers.

Armored Vehicles can also be used to increase the Psychological pressure; even a Soldier who has and is trained to use and Anti Tank Weapon is not going to be stressed when Armored Fighting Vehicle shows up.

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Apparantly the Slaughter was 3 Dead and 55 injured.

We might as well have some version of the whole Story on that.
"The marchers remained at their campsite waiting for President Hoover to act. On July 28, 1932, Attorney General William D. Mitchell ordered the police to remove the Bonus Army veterans from their camp. When the veterans moved back into it, they rushed two policemen trapped on the second floor of a building. The cornered police drew their revolvers and shot two veterans, William Hushka and Eric Carlson, who died later.[11][12]

Due to Police action attempting to remove persons from Government Propperty."shots were fired and two veterans were wounded and later died."
"When told of the shootings, President Hoover ordered the army to evict the Bonus Army from Washington."

Later "Army Chief of Staff General Douglas MacArthur commanded the infantry and cavalry supported by six tanks. The Bonus Army marchers with their wives and children were driven out, and their shelters and belongings burned."
"At 4:45 p.m., commanded by Gen. Douglas MacArthur, the 12th Infantry Regiment, Fort Howard, Maryland, and the 3rd Cavalry Regiment, supported by six battle tanks commanded by Maj. George S. Patton, formed in Pennsylvania Avenue while thousands of civil service employees left work to line the street and watch. The Bonus Marchers, believing the troops were marching in their honor, cheered the troops until Patton ordered[citation needed] the cavalry to charge them—an action which prompted the spectators to yell, "Shame! Shame!"
"After the cavalry charged, the infantry, with fixed bayonets and tear gas (adamsite, an arsenical vomiting agent) entered the camps, evicting veterans, families, and camp followers. The veterans fled across the Anacostia River to their largest camp and President Hoover ordered the assault stopped. However Gen. MacArthur, feeling the Bonus March was an attempt to overthrow the U.S. government, ignored the President and ordered a new attack."

The Tanks in us then were litlle 2 Man Tanks and were armed only with Machine Guns; not the huge Vehicles used in WWII.

Where is the Slaughter if US Citizens?
"Fifty-five veterans were injured and 135 arrested.[12] A veteran's wife miscarried. When 12-week-old Bernard Myers died in the hospital after being caught in the tear gas attack, a government investigation reported he died of enteritis, while a hospital spokesman said the tear gas "didn't do it any good."[16]"

"During the presidential campaign of 1932, Franklin D. Roosevelt opposed the veterans' bonus demands.[23] When they organized a second demonstration in May 1933, he provided the marchers with a campsite in Virginia and provided them three meals a day. Administration officials, led by presidential confidant Louis Howe, tried to negotiate an end to the protest. Roosevelt arranged for his wife Eleanor to visit the site unaccompanied. She lunched with the veterans and listened to them perform songs. She reminisced about her memories of seeing troops off to World War I and welcoming them home. The most she could offer was a promise of positions in the newly created Civilian Conservation Corps (CCC).[22] One veteran commented: "Hoover sent the army, Roosevelt sent his wife". In a press conference following her visit, the First Lady described her reception as courteous and praised the marchers, highlighting how comfortable she felt despite critics of the marchers who described them as Communists and criminals.[22]"


" In 1936, Congress overrode President Franklin D. Roosevelt's veto and paid the veterans their bonus years early."

I did not post the whole story if you want more info:
Bonus Army - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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I have heard this excuse for years and that's where swat teams were original for. Now they are used for minor offenses, like having unpasteurized milk in your fridge...

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The far left is infuriated about the miserable lives of others and the radical right is enraged about their own miserable lives.

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If they had the same weaponry to there disposal as the ATF did at Waco in 1993, the outcome was most likely different.

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when, actually, if both sides stepped back, they would see how big .GOV is playing them against each other. They share more common interests than they realize.

They can aslso be used to push through walls and insert flammable CS gas into buildings where women and children are, and run over dissidents.... COPS DON'T NEED THEM.....

Perhaps so but who will step back first and trust the other side?

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And I care, because? They chose the end they wanted.

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99 E300 Turbodiesel
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03 SeaDoo GTX SC Yellow
04 Tailgator 21 ft Toy Hauler
11 Harley Davidson 883 SuperLow

A leftist ideology that has hijacked what once were democrats and has party faithful lining up in trance getting all touchy feely over the sound of the word 'Progressive' and in most cases not seeing the forest through the trees of what progressive change really is. Left end of the scale is the ultimate goal....

The radical right who wants a balanced budget, downsize big government, lower taxes, rule of law adhered to, Constitution obeyed, gov't out of their lives.....these people are crazy and vilified for their ideals.

Somewhere between, trying to kiss butt on both sides of the aisle are your moderates who can't make up their minds what they really stand for and at the same time, with a little progressive help are running the place into the ground both fiscally and socially.

Your radical right is upset with the miserable lives brought upon them from the Progressive leftists...ie, Marxist Communists.

I demand a higher quality of trolling from you on this thread, or I will have no choice but to report this post.

Are you going to tell them, they won't listen to me.

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