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Old 04-30-2002, 05:04 AM
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Smile I found the best mechanic tools made!

FACOM. Facom tools are from France (!) and have better designs than all other companies IMHO.

The only place I have found to buy them are from Griots.

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Old 04-30-2002, 02:40 PM
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What kind of warranty do they have? Lifetime?

Sounds very nice.

One day, I'll pickup up a full set of tools again, but for now, I can get by with what I have.

Too bad my family lost most of my craftsman toolset when I went to college. I came back and they were almost all gone. It was a nice set too, had tons of tools, like 200 pieces, and was not very expensive at all. It came all in a nice case for it too. Once day I'll pick up another one. I have no porblems with using craftsman tools, the set I had was high quality, and they worked great.

I myself would stay away form snap-on like the plague. in my experience, the snap-on stuff is way overpriced. Try buying a set of cutter/crimpers for doing car stereo cabling work. $50 for a part, and you could get the same exact thing in downtown for $10. I had a snap-on drill I bought off the truck once, it cost a bloody fortune and wasn't even a very good drill. I was not impressed with it at all and gave it away. I'll stick with a good makita thank you.

Those french ones sound nice, how competitive is the pricing?

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Old 04-30-2002, 08:18 PM
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Lifetime warranty of course, but you have to mail them in to Griots. I work in a auto repair shop and there is an even mixture of Snap on and Craftsman tools. The open end wrenches for instance. The Snap on ones are very pretty. But the chrome that makes them pretty also makes them damn slippery with even a little bit of oil from your hands! AND, they hurt your hand to use because they have a sharp profile, and small heads. I always search for the Craftsman wrenches, even if it takes a few minutes. Their air impact wrenches are always breaking, and their easy outs are brittle and break quickly. I don't understand what people see in them.

Check out Griots anyway, they have a lot of cool stuff. If you don't have their catalog come to you every month, then you are missing a nice little joy.

www.griots.com

If you don't buy any other tool from Facom, buy their 3/8 ratchet wrench. Not more expensive than Craftsman, but so nice on the hands, and it has that nice 5 degree ratchet which comes in so handy. And it has a nifty back, which spins against your skin when you need to put pressure on the wrench (instead of your palm getting shredded against the switch which controls the direction)
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1988 Yamaha Venture (better than a Wing!)
1977 Suzuki GS750B
1976 Yamaha XS 650 (sold)
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Old 04-30-2002, 11:13 PM
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I have to say this guys, when working on cars Snap-On has the most comfortable wrenches there is . When I first started I spent 30 grand on all my tools. Thats from snap on , matco and some craftsman. Only craftsman I buy is stuff like 10mm deep 1/4 inch and 10mm shallow 1/4 inch. Those get lost alot for some reason. If you are doing this as a hobby use craftsman or another low dollar brand . If you do it for a living go with the best, cause I rarely brake the high dollar tools.
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Old 05-02-2002, 07:31 PM
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Facom wrench is...

...the best tool I ever had. As desribed above, it has such great features and still is indestructible.

I once forgot to remove the wrench from the crankshaft when I was adjusting the ingnition timing.

When I started the engine, the wrench with 27 socket turned around, snapped of the line from the tranny to the oil cooler and crashed against the guard under the engine.

The bolt which fastens the pulley for the belt came of (it is attached with 200 Nm)

Didn't do any harm to the wrench.

Big problem was to install the bolt, since the car has an automatic transmission. I could not block the engine.

Solution: Put the engine on OT, removed spark plug 3 and put a small nylon cord into the cylinder. Moving the engine forward I compressed the cord till the engine got blocked so that I could tighten the bolt.

Then slightly moved the engine just a little bit back and I could pull the cord.

Just as a hint when you ever come into the situation.

I personally prefer to buy the best tools I can get.

I snapped once a cheap wrench and almost cut my fingers severly. I gave all the cheap stuff to my sister for her kindergarten and kept Hazet, Gedore and Facom.

Any new tool is from those manufacturers.

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Old 05-02-2002, 08:13 PM
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The best tools I've ever used are made in Germany.
"Gedore" supplied by the company.They are satin
finish.Wrenches are thin but really strong.
Too bad we have to return it if you quit or
get canned.You can order it at Winkler&Dunnbier.
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Old 05-02-2002, 10:12 PM
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Howdy All,
Another good tool that some of the Mog people like is Stahlwille. www.stna.com
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Old 05-06-2002, 10:47 AM
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Just started a thread about getting a new air compressor...any recomendations on air impact tools?

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