In the article it said that the Officer requested that the case be prosecuted!

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The most recent unrest in St Louis was over the Officer being found not guilty.
So I was looking at some articles on the issue and came across the issue of the planted gun.

On video the Officer had gone back to the Police Vehicle and rummaged through a duffle bag. And some believe that was where the Gun for the plant came from. However, the Judge said that the Video shows that the Officer did not bring a gun out and that there was no place for him to hide one. So the Judge did not believe a gun was planted.

The comments from the News Media are that there was none of the Victims DNA (there was no claim that the victim handled the Gun) on the Gun and there was the Officers DNA on the Gun. The Officers DNA on the Gun is consistent with him pulling it out of the Car or could be from him pulling a Gun out of that Duffle Bag.
And that is good for the News Medias agenda which is to keep stirring the Pot.

My questions are about what was not said. I find it difficult to believe that this gun was scrubbed clean of all DNA except the Officers. Next is no other evidence on the gun like what the gun might have been stored in or if the gun came out of the car like particles from where the gun was stuffed.
Was there some Black Tech in the Lab that decided that the Officer was guilty and reported the test that only the Officers DNA was on it?

Stuff I would like to know the anser to.

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So take the discussion to the correct subforum. You realized you made a mistake in posting right after your initial post. There was plenty of time way back then to simply create another thread in the right forum. Continuing to update this one is an insult to anyone who wishes to stay out of the political swamp.

Common courtesy.

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I PM vstech who I think is the moderator to do that very thing. Why don't you complain to the moderator instead of me.

Also there is a Diesel Thread over in the section that this thread out to have been in. Complain about that one also and get it moved.


Is the Moderator on vacation or Ill?

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Sorry your Knickers are so twisted over this issue.

I did not realize I had posted in the wrong section till 3 others had posted in the thread. I think that is why I could not delete it when I tried to. After that I thought that the Moderator would deal with it.

You know I have been active in this form since 2007 with few issues. So I believe I am entitled to an occasional mistake.

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Almost everyone here knows your M O -even if there was video of a pig doing a "drop down" as far as you are concerned,,,,
that damn dark skinned lowlife deserved it anyway ~~ so obviously the ends justify the means.

I planted plenty today changing the rear door window regulator and window seal out in my 85 SE. Matter of fact, after exchanging the gas engine with a 617 diesel, rewiring the engine bay and removing the entire interior for paint I'd bet the car has more of my skin that my ex wife's lawyer.

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I have many time said if the Police violate the Law they should be tried.

I have also many times said the trial should not be by the News Media or by the Public Opinion that got their information from the News Media.

The public has been demanding the Officers that shoot and kill be tried for murder. If that is what you wish your wish came true.

In this case the Officer was tried for murder and found not guilty. So be carful what you wish for becaus a Murder case is harder to prove then some other crimes.

The other issue is that when the Officer is accused of a criminal act he gets all of those right the other alleged criminals get that sometimes helps them escape prosecution to victimize the public again.

You don't care about the MO of the Public that allowed the Drug Dealer to do businness or were customers. How many lives did the Drug Dealer destroy or effect while the Public did nothing.
I mean people are allowing the known Drug Dealers to sell to their own famalies and do nothing. That is a bigger crime then someone murdering a Drug Dealer.

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Common Drama.

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Part of my point. If the Gun was in the Officers Bag or in some holster there should be evidence of that. If the Gun was jammed between the Seat and the center consol then there should be evidence of that.

No one when the Gun was made left DNA on the Gun, no store clerk where the gun was bought left DNA on the Gun or if the Officer got the Gun from some other crime scene and kept it to plant no DNA was left from that.

So I find it odd that the only forensic information on the Gun is no victims DNA and only the Officers DNA. Sounds really suspicious to me.

My best guess is the News Media is not reporting the whole forensic facts.

More did they go to the Officers House and see if he had a box of the same Cartridges that were in the planted Gun? Did they go to the Victims House and see if the Victim had a box of the same Cartridges.

If the Gun was in the Officers duffle bag as a back up Gun some Policed departments only allow certain types of ammo in the Duty Guns. What type of ammo was in the Gun?

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DNA isn't necessarily left when somebody touches something.

Absence of evidence is not evidence.

U don't transfer DNA by just touching something....

Maybe he dripped some sweat on it

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Whose fingerprints or dna were on the cartridges? If any. If the guy was obviously dead and pulled out of the vehicle. The last thing you would do is grab the gun inside the car with bare hands after.

Anyways there pretty much has to be conclusive proof to convict an officer. He may have planted it or may not have. I would rather see a person given the benefit of the doubt than not. That is how the system is supposed to work. The thought of a person being in prison knowing they are innocent is a concept many people have had to live with all too often.

It also seems a little strange for the officer to be filmed rummaging around in his duffel bag at the time. If he did not get the gun what did he get? Why would you have a duffel bag at work in the car to start with? Nothing really substantial enough to convict on. He may indeed have planted the gun is possible . Just no verification.

I wonder if he and his partner would have submitted to a lie detector request? Not doing so does not assume guilt but does not look good at the same time. Yet if both passed it their story might be acceptable. How do you keep things honest when their own side is doing everything?

For example the lab they use might have stated that they only found his dna on the gun. Without specifying in all the places. If specified on the cartridges for example he might have been convicted. What about partial fingerprints? The outcome heavily depended on the police lab. A semi conflict of interest in the best scenario. You can only wonder at best how far the judge went in examining things.

As for this thread posted in the wrong area. Not a great deal really. The sun will still rise and set tomorrow. Now if it does not then we can all gang up on him.

Angry Mobs disagree.

There ought to have been other particulate evidence on the Gun.

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Apparently lots of people don't like when that applies to law enforcement officers.

Other articles said that the Officer was rumaging around in the Bag for something called a quick clotting kit. I first aid item.

And, I agree that there should have been other evidence on the Gun. I suspect that the News simply did not report that because it was not the story the News wanted to project.

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