[QUOTE=JB3;3880428]Its too bad you are so offended by a frank opinion that a stupid game with medications is in fact stupid, that you are playing this new game of veiled nonsense. Maybe what the OP needs is a little more honestly and a little less coddling.

We are all strangers here. The OP accidentally offing himself wont keep me up for one night. However, i will certainly have no problem pointing out the flaw in his plan and think it would be a shame for his loved ones. The difference between us is im going to admit that, and you wont, choosing instead to drop a few crocodile tears.[/QUOTE

You can be frank without belittling. Frankness with kindness is helpful. Frankness with insults will do no good and may hurt the situation. Oldsinner is trying to make it through the day in a way that is best for him. I totally sympathize with his desire to avoid addictive drugs. His avoidance of a diagnosis of heart disease though appears to be a bad idea.

If he did not want to discuss it he would not post here. He's looking for help. Lets try to be helpful please.

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

You should be ashamed of your self .

I see that you also LIED when you said you know his back story, obviously you don't .

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Ignorance is the mother of suspicion and fear is the father

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I know what hes posted. Its bad, but welcome to the human condition. These are trials and tribulations shared by millions of people who have stood up under the pressure and persevered.

Help comes to those who help themselves. Moping around whining on the internet is an ineffective course of action to solve ones problems.

But then again when life turns to shlt, i dont come on here crying about it. The most useful thing that has ever happened to me was coming to embrace the understanding that the world doesnt care about your problems. And if they dont care, i better focus on solving them or compensating for the damage ive taken.

Harder edge than you are used too, then thats too bad. I view these online troll posts suggesting stupid medical actions as attention seeking behavior that you two clowns are feeding with a passion.

You and twalgumuth want to preach about your compassion and other nonsense. End of the day you dont care. The only liars here are you two.

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We care enough to post and give support. What would you like to have us do so that you don't consider us liars?

I was raised to not kick a person when they are down. Apparently you were raised to kick them.

I will continue to offer encouragement here whether you think it is honest or not.

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

Ah yes. A little more self congratulation.

Continue to enable. Point out where (the latest in a long series) of the OPs troll posts should be considered more than the bait you are so eager to take.

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That is me...a self congratulatory sucker.

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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

Considering the source, there's no surprise you lied yet again and tried and failed to turn this around, you're the only snowflake here who's whining .

You have no idea of the hard edge I have because unlike you, I don't fake brag about it ~ I just actually deal with life and reality .

Keep on making a public fool of your self here .

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1982 240D 408,XXX miles
Ignorance is the mother of suspicion and fear is the father

I did then what I knew how to do ~ now that I know better I do better

Were we chatting about snowflakes? Ah yes, the person who decided to make an issue out of a mild comment is now telling us he doesnt complain, he simply deals with life.

Where the OP? Theres a shoulder here to cry on. Guessing hes coming up with another silly bad medical decision troll thread just for vwnate, complete with a hitching post for vwnates high horse.

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At least you can admit it.

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Unlike you who has zero compassion and to make you look worse, you're envious of anyone who does , snowflake .

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-Nate
1982 240D 408,XXX miles
Ignorance is the mother of suspicion and fear is the father

I did then what I knew how to do ~ now that I know better I do better

Society has a tendency to break down when compassion for others is lost. On too broad a base. I for example do not even like to see animals in distress.

People personally struggle with many things at their level of competence. The biggest lie of all time is that we are all born equal. We are all in theory free as well. Just try it out when you have few asset or very limited financial resources. I would call it very curtailed freedom at best then.

The last time people went out of there way for others in a big Way. Was probably in the depression of the 1930s. I often wonder at times if it would be better to experience an implosion of the north America economy. Just so people could reconnect properly again.

Simply because something has been lost. Plus is still losing more ground all the time. Personally I am pretty tired of all the manipulation of the bulk of the society. It can only be done by people that have no empathy for others. Instead only self interest at heart. It is all too easy to forget that the fate of others can pay you a visit at almost anytime. It happens far more often than most people would probably believe.

So be as kind as possible to others. It is not a hard thing to develop. People can and often can adjust their attitudes. That is why I have also claimed a little adversary in life is probably a good thing. It tends to connect people with reality.

You are mistaking my disgust with your holier than thou antics with envy apparently.

Id say you are scraping the barrell here trying to be insulting. Comes off as silly.

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No, you're ignoring the fact that you came in unbidden only to directly attach a man (a better man than you'll ever be BTW) who's dealing with life's switches and because you're an emotional child who couldn't help, you decided to show your insecurity and cowardice .

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt .

You can keep on showing the world just how afraid you are, endlessly..........

YOU jumped in and started this, now like a typical snowflake, you're crying when the Adults call you on your boorish behaviour .

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-Nate
1982 240D 408,XXX miles
Ignorance is the mother of suspicion and fear is the father

I did then what I knew how to do ~ now that I know better I do better

Medical science versus natural remedies. Throughtout my lifetime I have experenced both schools. Both "cures" have their pros and cons. You have to do a LOT of reading and RESEARCH to find the path best for you.

On another note, I've noticed that medical insurance has no problem whatsoever paying for prescription DRUGS purchased under LICENSE. Mention naturaopathic herbal remedies and they run for the hills.......

Heard a doctor on the radio the other day say it like this: "If they were safe, you wouldn't need a LICENSE to buy them".

Thank you hm ~ you can be positive if you want to be .

Many Homeopathic (? SP ?) remedies are in fact very good, others not so much .

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-Nate
1982 240D 408,XXX miles
Ignorance is the mother of suspicion and fear is the father

I did then what I knew how to do ~ now that I know better I do better