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Old 01-11-2020, 10:47 AM
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Not to be rude Barry, but you’re a little late. I retired three years ago from a career mostly in automation and controls. I’ve seen tons of different processes successfully automated for years. The peak was in the eighties through the 2000’s. The bad news is that many low paying jobs were lost. The good news was that many higher paying jobs developing and maintaining the systems were gained.



It was also was a great ride that netted me a comfortable retirement.
There is still huge huge movement in that field, mostly with the more recent push of cloud development and IoT. I imagine that is a shift from your experience towards more software and machine learning development. Its fascinating stuff - I have been meaning to learn a bit about IoT development but haven't really had the time lately.

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The problem with production systems being remotely accessible is that the systems are susceptible to unauthorized outside access. Production system controls and data acquisition need to be isolated. No access to the outside world. A typical production system hacked or otherwise disturbed can cause lost production costs that can be cripplingly expensive. I never created an application with even company internal access beyond data being logged to relational database within the companies control and no network connections beyond.
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What I refer as newer automation currently. Is the expected thrust to reduce workers at more levels than earlier. In many large franchised fast food business areas. It is the only way they may survive. Their other than labor costs have been increasing too fast. Many cannot afford the labor and pay their fixed costs.


Many fast food franchises for example almost had line ups only a few years ago. Where we have our orders taken right away almost always now for some time. Part of the problem may be they raised their prices to compensate. A lot have already closed their doors as well.
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Old 01-12-2020, 08:20 AM
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What I refer as newer automation currently. Is the expected thrust to reduce workers at more levels than earlier. In many large franchised fast food business areas. It is the only way they may survive. Their other than labor costs have been increasing too fast. Many cannot afford the labor and pay their fixed costs.


Many fast food franchises for example almost had line ups only a few years ago. Where we have our orders taken right away almost always now for some time. Part of the problem may be they raised their prices to compensate. A lot have already closed their doors as well.
Barry, what is "line ups" please?
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Barry, what is "line ups" please?
You had to wait on a line to order, rather than walking right up. That’s how I understood it.
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Old 01-13-2020, 12:43 AM
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The captain is right. Perhaps I should have said waiting in a line to place an order.

Personally I do not like fast food places. We still use then though when in a hurry. On frequent trips we take. It seems to me they built far too many at a time when the demand was there. At least in the regional orbit we travel a lot in.

There seems to have been a serious decline in their business. We stopped for fish and chips at a place last week. It was just getting into lunch hour and only three tables had people eating. Including us. Out of perhaps fifty tables. This place was busy five years ago.

We do not tip at fast food places where you get your order on a tray. Bill was 31.00 for the two of us. Most fast food franchises in our region are now almost constantly experimenting in an attempt to attract more business.

As I mentioned in the first post. There almost always was a lineup a few years ago. To get your order placed at the counter or at the drive through. In the vast majority of cases. Currently this is not the case.

Of concern is this fast food segment of the economy overall today. Is possibly the largest single commercial employer of people in our overall society. Regionally the employers are now taking advantage of the programs. Where they hire a new immigrant with limited English on assisted wage incentives.. To cut costs. This approach is really recent here but noticeable in our region.

If you want to go back in time twenty or more years. Our region of Canada is a good area to do it in. This region of Canada has seen very little immigration. Almost none in fact until the last year or so.

The government will financially encourage immigrants not to go to the large cities now. I for one wonder if that will work as there are no established cultural groups for them here.

So I think they will still soon gravitate to the larger cities after they get into the country. The pressure on housing and the infustructure being created by the immigration is becoming a really serious problem. In Canada's larger cities.
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Considering the occasional discovery of a twenty year old McDonald's burger that never rotted as normal beef would do, I wonder if what those places sell is really "food" ?.

I like to pretend I'm eating healthy by going to El Pollo Loco and only ordering skinless non fried chicken items.....

I'm sure it's still crap but not burger crap .

Oddly, I don't really miss that stuff I lived on in my teens and twenties .
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The captain is right. Perhaps I should have said waiting in a line to place an order.

Personally I do not like fast food places. We still use then though when in a hurry. On frequent trips we take. It seems to me they built far too many at a time when the demand was there. At least in the regional orbit we travel a lot in.

There seems to have been a serious decline in their business. We stopped for fish and chips at a place last week. It was just getting into lunch hour and only three tables had people eating. Including us. Out of perhaps fifty tables. This place was busy five years ago.

We do not tip at fast food places where you get your order on a tray. Bill was 31.00 for the two of us. Most fast food franchises in our region are now almost constantly experimenting in an attempt to attract more business.

As I mentioned in the first post. There almost always was a lineup a few years ago. To get your order placed at the counter or at the drive through. In the vast majority of cases. Currently this is not the case.

Of concern is this fast food segment of the economy overall today. Is possibly the largest single commercial employer of people in our overall society. Regionally the employers are now taking advantage of the programs. Where they hire a new immigrant with limited English on assisted wage incentives.. To cut costs. This approach is really recent here but noticeable in our region.

If you want to go back in time twenty or more years. Our region of Canada is a good area to do it in. This region of Canada has seen very little immigration. Almost none in fact until the last year or so.

The government will financially encourage immigrants not to go to the large cities now. I for one wonder if that will work as there are no established cultural groups for them here.

So I think they will still soon gravitate to the larger cities after they get into the country. The pressure on housing and the infustructure being created by the immigration is becoming a really serious problem. In Canada's larger cities.
Traditional fast food places are struggling because their food is garbage.
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No, the real drones are flown by pilots with instrument ratings. They have to be instrument rated in order to be adequately competent to keep their drones away from other aircraft. ATC coordinates drone flight just like any other. I am not speaking of the little helicopter drone that your grandkids got for Christmas.

If these kids were industrious and focused enough to be pilots it would be quite different.
the mil does seek them out, and tries to train them into it. no? https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2015-02-02-the-military-recruitment-of-gamers
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Traditional fast food places are struggling because their food is garbage.
I’ll eat a Turkey and Swiss at Arby’s or most everything at Panera, but that’s about it for fast food for me. And Panera ain’t that fast.
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How about turning off the TV and interacting with the grandkids instead next time? Maybe plan a fun home activity instead of watching crap on TV then heading to the internet to whine about it.

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Good luck with that .

I always try to restrict our Foster boys TV watching, they'll watch until their eyes bleed if they can .

Sadly my Sweet thinks having a TV set playing all day & all night is O.K. .

Me, I can't get away from the TV so I'm hating it , I no longer want to watch movies and so on because I'm sick if that flicking boob tube every where I go .
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It is either me or the general programing now. I no longer enjoy watching television. Except for the odd thing. It has turned into the worlds largest babysitter I suspect.

The daughter and son in law are having some difficulty with selling their car enterprise. So being the ever helpful dad I suggested they do a reality show episode to test the market.

Something like junkyard dogs of the far north. I suggested a lot of water transfer tattoos, Long scruffy ponytails and the daughter get a leather mini skirt and vest in leather. Well worn from a thrift shop With knee high spike boots. I did questioned myself if carrying a whip was over the top.

I think we may have a dog collar with spikes around here somewhere. I mentioned it was hers for the asking. Actually their enviroment is so cold and hostile. People would wonder things like if they wear snow shoes to bed?

Odd that she has not responded to that email.

What was crazy I thought after . Their operation is so diversified, busy and profitable. Episodes would probably sell. People really want over the top things to watch. The more bizzare the better. Plus it would be auto related.

Their operation really is about as far up in the north as it is possible to function in Canada. Yet they are diversified and busy. He has some health issues and they are fed up with the weather conditions. They sell auto parts right across the country. They also sell all types of vehicles. Cars, Heavy and light trucks and recreational vehicles.

Someone somewhere has probably published a book or articles on how to wean the young off of electronics. Or it is deemed impossible. Although I know an eight year old that reads a lot. That is probably not that common today.

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Good luck with that .

I always try to restrict our Foster boys TV watching, they'll watch until their eyes bleed if they can .

Sadly my Sweet thinks having a TV set playing all day & all night is O.K. .

Me, I can't get away from the TV so I'm hating it , I no longer want to watch movies and so on because I'm sick if that flicking boob tube every where I go .
Impossible to do without a unifed front on the subject. Since your wife isnt on the same page you can be played off against each other.

Tv for children in my household is an earned and limited commodity, and never right before bed. It is amazing how inventive and clever children are without the distraction of television putting them in a zombie like state.

I am frankly amazed that the OP, a man who has literally been complaining for YEARS on this forum about the degredation of society and these kids today, allows his grandchildren to watch television he thinks is ridiculous in his presence.
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As always, thanx for the assorted replies .

One thing we're in lock step on is : if she says turn it off or go do another thing and they don't right quick, I simply yank the plug out of the wall and they loose their game's position and I usually don't let the TV go back on until the next day .

No kidding about nothing worth watching ~ we have netflix and I perused the offerings for 10 + minutes this afternoon before choosing a mediocre old movie....

I don't enjoy searching the titles and programs, I'd rather read a book but I know my Sweet likes it when I settle on the sofa next to her .

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