This isn’t a war?

Speaking of ROI, other than a government subsidy of 5 billion or so Space X has been privately funded......

You get that there are people on board the rocket right?

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- With out god, life is everything.
- God is an ever receding pocket of scientific ignorance that's getting smaller and smaller as time moves on..." Neil DeGrasse Tyson
- You can pray for me, I'll think for you.
- When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

Tang! Oh dear God, imagine life w/o Tang!

Putting satellites into orbit is the only benefit I can see. That and robotic missions. Sending people back to the moon and oneday Mars strikes me as a huge waste of money.

Re the fever to go back to the moon, the moon is about the most unpleasant place that we know of for humans and human machines. Coated with abrasive dust from hell, I understand the damned stuff hangs in the air from static electricity. Is bad for rubber seals, it adheres to boots and every other part of space suits, will be brought back in the habitable spaces and find it's way into lungs. Stuff is microscopic razor blades, having never suffered erosion and degradation from water.

The chances of finding useful/recoverable minerals are about zero and the cost of getting them up and back to earth even if they were there in good quantity is enormous.

If one assumed that we still had the space shuttle program and further that it could land on and then take off from the moon (we don't/it couldn't), further if we assumed gold bricks were neatly stacked on the surface waiting to be loaded into the hold, the value of the gold would be similar to what we used to spend just putting a shuttle into orbit and getting it back again. I did the math once, don't want to do it again.

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If EMP resulted in ruination of electronic circuitry, sissy has nothing to do with it.

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Visionaries are always scoffed at by luddites whose only concern is profit. As I said this is about something way bigger than that. The place of the United States in the future. Once humanity makes the shift to interplanetary travel those nations staring at their navels will slide inexorably into loser has been status. I'd rather not see that happen to the US while the likes of China determines what kind of future humanity has.

- Peter.

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1979 116 280S
1972 Cadillac Sedan DeVille
1971 108 280S

At some point, we will probably have to leave this rock. Exploration is what man has always done. Whether it be to the depth of the ocean or the outer reaches of space. No way to know what gains will be made by doing so.

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- With out god, life is everything.
- God is an ever receding pocket of scientific ignorance that's getting smaller and smaller as time moves on..." Neil DeGrasse Tyson
- You can pray for me, I'll think for you.
- When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

Correct. It was great to watch. Fantastic job. Hope they can maintain reliability moving forward.

- Peter.

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2021 Chevrolet Spark
Formerly...
2000 GMC Sonoma
1981 240D 4spd stick. 347000 miles. Deceased Feb 14 2021
2002 Kia Rio. Worst crap on four wheels
1981 240D 4spd stick. 389000 miles.
1984 123 200
1979 116 280S
1972 Cadillac Sedan DeVille
1971 108 280S

Typical ignorant trolling post and non question .

The R.O.I. has been huge, you're trolling using it you moron .

I miss Tang, no one carries it anymore .

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Ignorance is the mother of suspicion and fear is the father

I did then what I knew how to do ~ now that I know better I do better

There's no air 200 miles up. The atmosphere ends 62 miles above sea level.

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yep space burst. We do need to invest on harden power,one huge flare,and its 1810 for 40 years.

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As with the bomb, science worked the math part early in the 20th century. I was poking around and found that math has proved a craft can go 1000 times the speed of light. By folding space, we have to find dark energy,not anti matter to do this. A gravity,can bend space, and time.

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