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Old 07-02-2020, 09:06 AM
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Old 07-02-2020, 09:23 AM
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It is a Crane Plumbing toilet stamped July 29, 1998, inside the tank cover and inside the tank. Do not see the gallon usage anywhere. Do not think it is a low flush toilet.

To repeat - water level full each time, swirl but no evacuation - just sometimes.

Plumber says there is absolutely no blockage.

I am also wondering if the pipes are undersized.

Will look at grinder thread. Thanks for that.
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Old 07-02-2020, 09:51 AM
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Crane toilets are garbage. We have one at work. They lack a siphon jet and rely entirely on the water flowing into the bowl from the tank to "move the load" so to speak. Any toilet made after 1993 is a 1.6 gallon or less toilet. The Cranes are well known to be weak flushers, sometimes just TP will give a partial flush. Pretty much ANYTHING made today is an improvement.
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Old 07-02-2020, 10:20 AM
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american Jail toilets the best. Mexico had a hole in the floor,no paper, and leaking pipe for water
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Old 07-02-2020, 11:50 AM
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You guys are a scream.

Dunno about water jets but this toilet feeds water from the rim holes and from a 1" hole in the throat which aims backward through the exit. That sounds like water jets to me.

I am guessing that they only installed a 3" outflow pipe and the problem cannot be rectified. As it is an apartment there is nothing radical that I can do to modify the actual toilet.

I may be up that creek - whatever they call it.
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Old 07-02-2020, 03:37 PM
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The flow of the water is critical .

We have seriously heavy water here, it causes lime and other mineral buildups, I use white vinegar in the top tank to ensure those little holes underneath the rim are always wide open .

american standard was the P.O.C. new toilet when I bought my 1923 house in 1988, it never did flush well from new .

Spider webs in the vent pipe will also cause this, as you live in an apartment I feel your pain and wish you the best of luck .
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I am giving up. Management said just use less tp.
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Old 07-02-2020, 08:28 PM
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He probably tells all his customers the same thing. Sounds like someone missed the mark on the design and many of the units have issues.
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It was a well intention-ed law to use less water. Now with so many multiple flushes it would be interesting to see if they actually save any water.
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It was a well intention-ed law to use less water. Now with so many multiple flushes it would be interesting to see if they actually save any water.
I can say that the 1.2gpf Delta I have in my master bathroom has never missed a beat, clogged, or had a partial flush since it was installed. It replaces a 2000-era Kohler 1.6gpf that was here when I moved in and was a POS from Day ONE.

The toilet in the hall bathroom is original to the house, a 1960 5-gallon per flush American Standard. I've lived in this house for over a decade and it has NEVER clogged, but for each flush of it, I can flush the master bath FOUR TIMES and use the same amount of water. Well-intentioned or not, that's a massive difference. Assume everyone on your street had 2 bathrooms with such a toilet and switched to the 1.6gpf models. How much water is that saving every single day? Expand that to your whole town, county, state, country..... You get the idea.
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Old 07-03-2020, 08:28 AM
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Well, that sounds pretty good!
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Tom - now that I think about it, I know that the toilet tissue is not the problem nor is the volume of waste. When it swirls, nothing even tries to go down most of the time. There is just no downward suction. Everything on top just swirls and then it stops; it does not even try to suck it down. Not every time but sometimes.

There are other times when it just evacuates maybe 70- 80% and the tp could be an issue.

But what about the times mentioned in paragraph 1?
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Time to get the toilet snake out and confirm that there’s not a blockage between the toilet and the flange
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Tom - now that I think about it, I know that the toilet tissue is not the problem nor is the volume of waste. When it swirls, nothing even tries to go down most of the time. There is just no downward suction. Everything on top just swirls and then it stops; it does not even try to suck it down. Not every time but sometimes.

There are other times when it just evacuates maybe 70- 80% and the tp could be an issue.

But what about the times mentioned in paragraph 1?
Here is some advice that is worth exactly what you paid for it. I've noticed that real world demonstrations speak volumes over a telephone call complaining to management. First, 80% of all communication is NON-verbal which means telephone communication is a failure from the get go.

Ask the property manager to come to your apartment for a demonstration of the toilet problem IN ACTION. In my experience, this will help him/her to see with his/her own eyes exactly what the problem is. Usually, this moves them to ACT which in this case is get you a NEWER BETTER potty.

Again, this may or may not work, but I've had great results using live demonstrations to show the other party what the problem is.

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