I've heard many people raise their dogs this way, but there are no fighting breeds

Except bulldogs of course....

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-Nate
1982 240D 408,XXX miles
Ignorance is the mother of suspicion and fear is the father

I did then what I knew how to do ~ now that I know better I do better

Just one of a few recent attacks:

https://www.news-leader.com/story/news/education/2022/12/21/willard-students-teachers-injured-in-dog-attack-during-school-recess/69745824007/

I'm posting about pitbulls due to my research on information about the breed.

Everyday we go through a farm type gate to enter property that has restricted access. The immediate neighbor ( house within 100 feet of gate ) is allowing multiple druggies to live with her. Some sleep inside the house and others sleep in derelict RV's and cuddy cablns of small boats on trailers. She used to be pleasant and seemingly sane but now rattles like a homeless person due to about six years of drug use.

One of her 'guests' has seven pitbulls. They frequently gather near the gate and are not restricted by fences and are never leashed. Looks like three generations. Sheriff and animal control will take no action unless a crime is committed.

This morning I ran across this:

https://www.kron4.com/news/woman-mauled-to-death-by-pack-of-small-dogs/

It's very surprising that small dogs did this. With this one, I believe it was caused by the an uncaring dogs owner not the breed.

I had a friend once who held that all dogs were not far from their primal nature. That is if push came to shove, and if a fight broke out so to speak, and they were hungry, could turn into a feeding frenzy real quick.

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I agree that it's in their DNA to attack or defend their pack, said pack includes you if you're treating them well .

I used to have a 4/5ths Doxie, he was absolutely fearless when on the attack .

He once cornered and tried hard to kill an opossum that was 3X his size, he never gave up the fight until it was dead, I had to help out with a shovel, Opossums are *very* hard to kill .

My current sire is a healthy good sized Chi-Terrier mix and he's also fearless and ready to attack ~ they other day I fed him and was playing, growling at him as he ate and he made one turn towards my hand and snap before he realize it was me growling....

Anyone who allows unleashed dogs deserves to have them taken away .

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-Nate
1982 240D 408,XXX miles
Ignorance is the mother of suspicion and fear is the father

I did then what I knew how to do ~ now that I know better I do better

Unleashed dogs were common in my childhood home - Roswell, New Mexico of all places. A guy across the street owned a Doberman. We had a cat, one day the Doberman chased the cat up into my arms, and was all over me, trying to get at the cat, which scratched the hell out of my head in the process.

Nothing was said or done about it as far as I know.

Three or four years later we owned a half Dalmatian, half Doberman. He looked like a miniature Doberman. That dog could run like a whippet, it was amazing to see, and I saw it plenty, he was unleashed as were most dogs in that day (about 1961). He was a serious defender of me. One day I was in the front yard and the mailman showed up. I had my arms around him, restraining him, he sounded like he would’ve ripped the mailman’s throat out.

Not too long after, he was gone, my mother told me that they gave him to a farmer so he would have more room to run around in. I believed her. I suspect he was put to sleep.

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Local free roaming pitbulls, about seven of them, are still in the neighborhood. Trying to collect a batch of photos and getting a few neighbors to also complain to animal control.

Two recent attacks:

https://people.com/crime/georgia-boy-11-survives-attack-by-three-dogs/ lost 70 percent of scalp and an ear

https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/news/courts/death-of-1st-grader-mauled-by-pit-bull-ruled-accidental/article_5c0ca6f6-906b-11ed-bc6a-a7a5f94e834e.html

Both attacks by free roaming pitbulls.

Another sad story, this time a family dog:

https://denvergazette.com/life/golden-grandmother-gave-life-defending-family-against-pit-bull-attack/article_909ec33a-53db-11ed-8e4d-63a7b6925606.html

It's past the time for the owner or city to have solved this, go buy a pound of ground beef and a box of rat poison and mix them well, form into balls the size of tangerines and set them out .

Be aware this is the drastic final solution, the animals will die, no Vet. can save them and your cats might also die if they're allowed to roam free .

It's either this or get a box full of .22LR shells and plink at the dogs until they're all dead .

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-Nate
1982 240D 408,XXX miles
Ignorance is the mother of suspicion and fear is the father

I did then what I knew how to do ~ now that I know better I do better

I would do something like that, but a local American Legion was fined $20,000 for being complicit with a pitbull's killing. Also, the local pitbulls owner sicced the sheriff's office on a nearby neighbor for shooting and wounding one of the dogs. Luckily that owner didn't shoot the dog.

Most rat poison is warfarin, a blood thinner, if I'm not mistaken. Don't think it will kill a dog. Some gopher poison contains strychnine which will kill dogs and people.

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1984 300D, 138K

It's outta control. I did some repair on a rental owned by a family who now lives in Israel. They had a new tenant they had never met. Nice enough people, the guy is a weight trainer, pretty buffed out. They have two large pit bulls. The male was friendly to me, he knows how to be introduced to people by his owner. The female always displayed a simmering hostility. They would watch her close when I or anyone else was around, would put in her in a room and close the door.

One day I had a laborer. I had earler plugged an extenstion cord to an outlet on a side porch, the view to the front sort of obscured. When we were about to leave I asked the laborer to unplug the cord, unaware that they had put the dogs on the porch. He started walking up the steps and the dogs sounded like they were about to rip his throat out.

Holy crap.

No injury but still jarring.

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1986 300SDL, 362K
1984 300D, 138K