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Old 09-22-2023, 10:54 PM
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I was about to take your advice. I came home today and the solution became really clear. The timing was outstanding. My house has a long steep driveway, I got out at the top and I noticed a huge swath of coolant, but it only started just as I got to the top, about 30 feet back.

There was coolant leaking out below in the same spot only quite a bit of it. I let it cool off for an hour, put some tap-water into it, and it immediately started leaking out below. So I positioned the hose to stay in the top of the radiator, turned it on, and this is what I saw underneath:

https://youtu.be/TozwUYzNpLE?si=8Jy21FtwV5nVAJDy

I took the starter out, wired it up so I wouldn’t have to undo all the cables, and who woulda thought, I was correct on the freeze plug hypothesis:



I went back to where the coolant trail started, and look what I found:



Now all I’ve got do is make sure I know what I’m doing when I put ia new one back in. I’ll buff the inside of that opening with scotch bright. I read mentioned that some people like to use brass replacement items. Not sure.

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Old 09-23-2023, 10:19 AM
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I thought you said that location was hard to get to? This looks as if it is not even in a vehicle?
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Old 09-23-2023, 10:34 AM
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Taking the starter out allowed you to see that the freeze plug was the problem, congratulations! In the video it looks like a gusher! Best wishes for a successful repair!
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Old 09-23-2023, 10:32 PM
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almost forgot, due to the large amounts of coolant/water gushing out over the starter, you may need to replace the starter. I know this one because I once drove through a flooded roadway which took out my starter so I had to replace it (fun).
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Thoroughly freeze the new plug to shrink it before installation. Some sealer around the edges helps.
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Old 09-23-2023, 11:14 PM
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Are those photos up side down?
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Old 09-24-2023, 04:06 PM
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I said upside down, not mirrored
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Old 09-24-2023, 04:27 PM
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I thought you said that location was hard to get to? This looks as if it is not even in a vehicle?
Look at the video - is the first link in that post. The freeze plug was just not visible, the starter was in the way. I took the starter out, and my suspicion was confirmed.
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Old 09-24-2023, 06:04 PM
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Thoroughly freeze the new plug to shrink it before installation. Some sealer around the edges helps.
I’m about to get some dry ice at the grocery store. Former member Brian Carlton, a mechanical engineer who builds devices for balancing jet engines once told me that many of the fittings he used were small steel pins, placed in liquid nitrogen prior to placement.

I suddenly have an odd bit of anxiety. My plan is to have the new plug sitting in rice for a few minutes while I’m putting a thin coating of ATV around the opening. I am wondering if the super cool part will somehow burn the silicone? I think I’ll experiment with the old plug, some RTV silicone on it, and dry ice applied.
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Old 09-25-2023, 10:47 AM
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The awful deed is done. Worked out pretty well I think, looks good, no leakage.



That is an upside down image come to think of it. I am on my back with my top of my head somewhere close to where the crankshaft is, looking up at the side of the block.

I probably wasted my money on the dry ice, it was only $6. I was wondering if the plug being really cold would make it condense moisture, I was correct. I got it in position, quickly wiped off the condensate with a paper towel and shoved it in place, started hammering, I used a half inch drive socket that was the right size to just fit inside. I don’t think it will be a problem, but I was concerned about having moisture in there along with the silicone gasket sealer stuff.

The install tools push on the outer rim. When I was about halfway in, one side was a little higher than the other, so I hammered on a large steel rod on the outer rim wherever it was high, then I reverted to my large socket with an 8 inch long extender.

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