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Old 05-21-2025, 04:11 PM
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I can't see it helping the life of the starter.

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Stop lying. You can't even hear it.
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Old 05-22-2025, 02:48 AM
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Old 05-22-2025, 10:05 AM
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I cannot stand auto stop start. I programmed it out on my last F-150 that had it.
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Old 05-22-2025, 10:25 AM
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Me too. I tried to code it out of the GLK using Autel system but was unable to get it to change from active to not active.
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Old 05-22-2025, 06:32 PM
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Just hit the button on the dash after start up.
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Old 05-22-2025, 07:00 PM
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Yea, that what I do when I remember it.
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Old 05-23-2025, 02:15 PM
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I can't see it helping the life of the starter.
It just might be that the auto shut off starters are designed for purpose.

But this would require some thought.
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I can't see it helping the life of the starter.
starter is hd for the application i suspect.
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Is there a starter life issue?
That was a question I had. It would take a lot of hours of idling to make up for the cost of one new starter. As far as reducing greenhouse emissions, one would need to do some nifty research to determine how much carbon is created in manufacturing a starter.

Brian Carlton visited me in the Bay Area 6 or 7 years ago. He was doing some work at SFO on some jet engine balancing. We went out to dinner in his rental Mercedes. It would do the auto shut off and start at every stop longer than a few seconds, I forget exactly. I could barely hear it either way. At one point, he demonstrated the remarkable stopping abilities it had. A panic stop was not that far away from hitting a brick wall.
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Old 05-23-2025, 03:33 PM
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Teslas do this at any stop. Say what you will about EVs.... They no not have an idle m0de.
I got the crap scared out of me by a Prius in battery mode. In the parking lot at an Orchard Supply Hardware, I was rummaging around in the backseat for some part that I needed to take in to match. I was having trouble finding it so I knelt down so I could hunt around on the floor or maybe under the front seat.

All of a sudden the car next to me, a Prius, started to move. I freaked out, not knowing whether or not my feet might be in the path of the rear wheel. I emerged unscathed, my underwear still clean, but I didn't like it.
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Old 05-23-2025, 03:53 PM
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That was a question I had. It would take a lot of hours of idling to make up for the cost of one new starter. As far as reducing greenhouse emissions, one would need to do some nifty research to determine how much carbon is created in manufacturing a starter.

Brian Carlton visited me in the Bay Area 6 or 7 years ago. He was doing some work at SFO on some jet engine balancing. We went out to dinner in his rental Mercedes. It would do the auto shut off and start at every stop longer than a few seconds, I forget exactly. I could barely hear it either way. At one point, he demonstrated the remarkable stopping abilities it had. A panic stop was not that far away from hitting a brick wall.
And not just a replacement, the new one. These must cost more, so the additional cost of the first unit over it's lifetime. If they don't cost more but give 5x cranks then all the cars would have them and we would never replace a starter in the normal life of a non shutdown vehicle.
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Old 05-23-2025, 06:03 PM
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Probably same starters as all the other applicable engines. If it is a MB starter it should be a quality unit. I would not want to put a cheap starter on one and continue to have the car do the auto start/stop thing.
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Old 05-23-2025, 06:48 PM
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I got the crap scared out of me by a Prius in battery mode. In the parking lot at an Orchard Supply Hardware, I was rummaging around in the backseat for some part that I needed to take in to match. I was having trouble finding it so I knelt down so I could hunt around on the floor or maybe under the front seat.

All of a sudden the car next to me, a Prius, started to move. I freaked out, not knowing whether or not my feet might be in the path of the rear wheel. I emerged unscathed, my underwear still clean, but I didn't like it.
I have a hybrid Honda CR-V. For safety reasons, whenever it is in full battery mode, a noisemaker placed under the hood emits a strange sound that I equate to a flying saucer sound effect from some cheap '50's sci-fi movie...
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As far as reducing greenhouse emissions, one would need to do some nifty research to determine how much carbon is created in manufacturing a starter.
Well, thank goodness this is history. Now they can go back to manufacturing cars with cranks.
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I have a hybrid Honda CR-V. For safety reasons, whenever it is in full battery mode, a noisemaker placed under the hood emits a strange sound that I equate to a flying saucer sound effect from some cheap '50's sci-fi movie...
So do all Toyota hybrids/plug in hybrids/electrics. Noisemaker works when the car is operated below 20 mph. If the car has VVT, the wear on the starter is minimal, because the car will be started in Atkinson cycle: the compression stroke will effectively be shortened by adjusting valve timing.

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