Se le guerre

It's funny how most people commented that they would rather be married and poor but the poll at the top of this topic still shows the Single and Rich vote to be higher, almost 2 to 1.

That's cause the poor don't vote! ;)

You can still keep whatever wealth you have while married. It's getting unmarried that hurts. So guys, everytime you hit that titty bar remember... is it worth half of what you got?

What timing,
Just found out that my old business associate is getting a Divorce after 10 years of marriage. Who knew it was gonna happen.
He worked very hard for 20 years to make his fortune and she is gonna get half plus alimony plus child support.

When your poor, half of everything you own is not that bad, but when your rich, it's like cutting off your legs.

There are two sides to every story. My wife and I have been together for many years (coming on 22) and during that time we've had instances where neither of us were working, either of us was working, and both of us were working.

Right now, and for the last five years, my wife has been the "breadwinner" in our family. But, that does not mean that I have not contributed in some manner. I have forgone income and career advancement to stay home with our daughter. It's not like it hasn't cost me a great deal. If we were to divorce today, would be it be fair for my wife to receive the bulk of our assets? No.

People moan about child support. If we were to divorce, one of us would be expected to shoulder the entire cost of raising and educating our children? That makes little sense to me.

Many men I know contribute little to their families beyond the earning of money. They see this as their role within the marriage, and why should it be different without?

I know many couples where the woman sacrificed her own education so that they could invest in the man's. Then they gave up pursuing their own career to further their husband's. Suddenly, after 15 or 20 years, the husband should be able to walk away with the asset base, his education, and his earning potential intact? Women need to be more proactive from a young adult age, and stop investing in their husbands. When it comes time to pay a tuition bill, they should insist that it's theirs. When it comes time to move cities for a promotion at the other's expense, women should not compromise and always expect their husbands to.

Then, at some point in the future, the women will have strong earning foundations, careers, and have no loss of earning potential. Then, if a divorce happens, they should demand that since they made the money and spent the time at work, they should walk away with everything.

To switch gears, I think divorce and marriage are not taken seriously enough anymore. People lease their cars and they lease their spouses. Marriages are HARD work, but it's a hulluva investment. No one that really put a great deal into their marriage came away with less in the end. My wife and I have faced difficulties not unlike any other couple. The reason we still have a strong and vibrant marriage is that we buckled down and put in the work when it was required. There is no quick fix. You can't watch an episode of Dr. Phil and come away with an easy solution.

People also take having children too lightly. They have no idea of what a life altering experience it is (and should be). Raising a family is also a huge commitment. People have become lazy. They always look for the easy way out.

It should be 100x tougher to divorce. It should be 100x costlier. Maybe a marriage license should cost $10,000? Maybe people should just stop being so damn selfish and learn to grow up.

...Rant over.

Shoot, I havn't been to the booby bar in years but I know I can without feeling the wrath of my wife, unless lipstick stains my collar:eek:

Just marry with the head on your shoulders and you'll be fine.

And stay away from feminists, we have a picture of famous feminists that my wife aquired from a hostile man hating family member, guess where we hung it?






THE LAUNDRY ROOM!

I'm not going to touch the religion part of this debate, because logic and reason quickly exit the building during religious debate.

But with the legal system being what it is nowadays, a person with any significant wealth that gets married without some sort of legal protection (pre-nup) is out of his/her mind, if you ask me.

It's not about lack of trust, or any of that crap...It's about eliminating risk. It removes that variable from the equasion. If someone decides to leave, then they leave with what they brought, plus 1/2 of whatever you earned together. They have no right to leave with what YOU brought.

If she's OK with a pre-nup, then you KNOW she's not "marrying the money". :) If she gets all wacked-out over the idea of a pre-nup, then you might have something to worry about, eh?...

Mike

Of course he should pay the child support, but alimony is CRAP.

It's an archaic, obsolete concept that should not exist in 2004.

Mike

Heeeere we go again.

Whatever. He made that CHOICE, and he can live with the consequences.

Mike

Yes, some states have taken care of the issue legislatively, making a pre-nup not an absolute "must". However, many states have not figured that out yet.

Mike

I live in a community property state and the concept is not without its problems. God help you if you're separated but not divorced. Anything you buy with your money is half hers unless she grants you the favor of signing off on it. Buy a car -- it's half hers. Buy a house -- it's half hers -- it doesn't matter whose money it is.

Yes -- when I moved to Arizona from Illinois in the midst of a divorce a little while back, I thought a time warp had landed me back in the stone age. I'm glad I'm not the only one who doesn't find the "community property" concept progressive.

Re: Married, Rich, Rockstar....
 

'Married rockstar' kind of takes the fun out of it, doesn't it? I suppose once you reach a certain age... :D