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Old 12-27-2014, 08:37 PM
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Warping a youngster - a family barn find

A barn find from within the extended family brings my son and I to this forum. While my wife and I have always been flogging and restoring odd, old cars and leading our 2 kids down a path of automotive dimentia, the M-B brand had not cluttered our garage. That has now been rectified...

A 1971 220, 4 speed car followed us home a couple weekends ago. My wife's uncle purchased it in the early 70s and drove it for years. At some point between 2003 and 2007 the car was parked in a barn at their farm in WV. The attached photo shows it in front of the barn it emerged from.

Overall, the car appeared to be pretty good by our haul it home project standards, so we decided our son would revive it as his high school senior project rather than tackling my somewhat tired Morgan Plus 4 he rode to elementary & middle school in, hood almost never up(which is how I still drive it on a regular basis).

Boxes of parts and factory service and parts manuals filled the 220's trunk. And they are proving useful. Within the boxes were signs the engine had a rebuild at some point in the past, rumored to have been around 2000. Perhaps that it turned freely with plugs out, spun up with good oil pressure, then fired up immediately with fresh gas confirm that.

In the short time I've been on this forum, I've found everyone to be extremely helpful and it to be a wealth of useful information. We'll update things as we progress...currently into the brakes.

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Ken
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Old 12-29-2014, 09:00 PM
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Very cool, nice "extended find". Keep us updated on the project.
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Old 01-02-2015, 08:37 AM
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Nice. Keep updates coming
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Old 01-16-2015, 07:02 PM
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Progress continues. Jackson now has had the pleasure of bending and installing replacement brake lines from master to wheel wells. Along with the appropriate instruction on leaving room for flaring tool and not bending before tube nut is past the bend point. No doubt, if he continues down this foolish path, he'll slip up and forget one or both of those fine points some time down the road, just like most of us have.

The fine art of popping caliper pistons out and rebuilding calipers is another task he's passed muster on. With new lines and hoses, brake fluid actually flows to each corner now. Somewhere in this process we touched on that fancy word hygroscopic as it relates to brake fluid as the condition of various brake bits provided a great example of why periodic brake fluid change really does matter.

Before finishing up brake work we're digging a bit further into the front end. He checked and found a sloppy inner tie rod end and center link. And learned a lesson that inner and outer on cars like this can get mixed up over the years. In this case it was, that shot inner end was actually an outer. Fortunately parts were ordered after this was discovered. In the process of fiddling with the steering stuff, he's had the opportunity to use the 3 common methods of joint separation, pickle fork, hammer on arm and screw type ball joint separator (this lesson was a good excuse to buy one of those).

Tires were striped off the wheels so we can blast and repaint those. Not much of a lesson there as he'd already experience tire mounting/balancing work. Maybe we'll get a few more things done this weekend.
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Old 01-18-2015, 05:30 PM
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No doubt you are stressing safety. Amazing how fast anything up hydraulically comes down when a seal pops.
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Old 02-09-2015, 07:38 PM
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Progressing slowly in the right direction. Rear calipers on car with new hoses and rotors. Center link for steering out. Steering damper is OK. But Jackson found a broken pass side motor mount while looking things over this weekend. Any recommendations on motor mount sourcing? Doesn't appear on Pelican Parts site. One listing shows it is same as a 75 240D another shows it isn't????
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Old 02-09-2015, 11:39 PM
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There's access to an EPC. Stark info or something. Requires Java and I'm lost. But will provide part numbers. It requires a Credit card but it's free

It's been my experience thus far, to replace everything that is rubber. Minus the pinion seal.
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Old 02-10-2015, 05:19 PM
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google can be a friend.
https://www.google.com/search?q=75+240D&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#newwindow=1&safe=off&q=75+240d+motor+mount+replacement
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A very good weekend! We finished up clutch hydraulic lines Friday night and bleed. Clutch pedal returned properly. Jackson drove it out of garage earl;y Saturday morning and we took it to a couple appointments. He felt something wasn't right with accelerator. Today we took a closer look at that. Seems it must have been that way for some time, hose to bottom of carb, which we had yet to touch, was fouling carb linkage. He fixed that and now it almost gets full throttle. Looks like bushing in linkage may be worn out too. But we know it drives OK, brakes, clutch and tranny are fine, heater and fan work too.:-) Waiting on new motor mount to arrive. After that on to rust repair, ugh.
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Well, if last weekend was a high point, today was a disaster. Today Jackson took it out to see how it drove with the throttle now actually opening all the way. Not far from home is started blowing white clouds out the tailpipe. Temp was fine but clearly it was consuming water. Pulled the head, another learning opportunity for him. Head had a really bad repair to front portion going to timing cover. A weld bead made it extremely hard to clear tensioner guide. Once off it was obvious Cyl 1 was using water as it was much cleaner than the others. Visible crack in front section over timing cover. Looks like another head will be in order. Perhaps that's why Uncle John parked it years ago and the rest of the family had no idea. Arrgh
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Old 03-07-2015, 09:01 PM
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I have an extra good head if you need. I am located at 93427.
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Old 04-12-2015, 10:09 PM
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Well the fun continues...a refreshed head went on, running fine then sudden stop. Timing chain master link came apart....something we hadn't touched. And all seemed well turning by hand while confirming cam timing and setting valves.

Any tips on threading a chain back in place when the old one is no longer a loop around the gears to use to pull the new one around?

Also found when we pulled motor out that there is a slight crack in the base the dizzy mounts in. Anyone have a spare they could part with? Head has one bent intake valve, but we have some spares, pistons appear to be OK.

At least pulling the lump is way easier than same operation on our Saab 900!
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Love to see some pictures when you can post them!

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Old 07-12-2015, 09:46 PM
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Well, son got the car running after the timing chain disaster 2 days before senior project due. He drove it to school for display day :-) Ended up doing far less than he planned in terms of clean up/fix up but it at least he could drive it. Made a 94 overall for the senior project class.

Assorted gremlins have subsequently been popping up. Carb has some issues, we think with the assorted electrics for it as disconnecting those makes it run better. Haven't had time to dive into that.

Yesterday morning when he hopped in to go to work, it wouldn't crank. It was fine 10 hours earlier when he drove home the previous evening. Wiring to starter appears to have some issues. As the service manual has yet to surface from our recent moving, does anyone have or know off the top the correct wiring to the starter for a manual tranny, 71 gas 220?

We have a pair of larger wires going to the battery terminal on the starter. My guess is those go to alternator and fuse box.

A single wire to the upper of the 2 smaller terminals on the solenoid.

2 wires going to the lower small terminal in the solenoid.

The smaller wires to the solenoid are spliced with brown wire used on 2 of the 3 plus lots of electircal tape. So colors unknown at moment. We'll be trimming harness cover back so we can find good wire and remove the suspect sections while sorting things out.
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Old 07-13-2015, 01:12 AM
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Here is the Factory Service Manual:
Mercedes-Benz Model 114/115

Select your model number and year, and then I think the Electrical Troubleshooting Manual will probably be best as it has the wiring diagram for you.
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