Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support > Tech Help

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-01-2005, 03:08 PM
tino's Avatar
1986 300E (W124,M103)
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Canada
Posts: 110
Where is outside temp sensor?

My outside temerature gauge used to work and now has gone crazy - it now shows temperatures of 50 C and more. Tried to find the outside sensor behind the front license plate and in general behind the bumper but can not find any wiring or sensor. Where can it be?

__________________
1986 300E
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-01-2005, 03:28 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 177
your looking in the right place attached is the manual page for your vehicle
Attached Files
File Type: pdf 54-6341.pdf (50.1 KB, 929 views)
__________________
Jerry

2004 SL500 Black 55K Miles
2002 s500 Black 90K Miles
1986 300E Gold 233K Miles
1966 Twin Cessna 320D
1989 Jeep Cherokee 233K Miles
1994 Ford Van E150 399K Miles
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-01-2005, 03:30 PM
G-Benz's Avatar
Razorback Soccer Dad
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Dallas/Fort-Worth
Posts: 5,711
The sensor is fastened onto one of the screws (left screw if you're facing the bumper) that holds the license plate frame in place....black in color.

Actually, I believe the dash unit is more prone to problems than the actual sensor. I went through the trouble to replace the sensor and painstakenly routed it like OEM, only it still yielded the same results...
__________________
2009 ML350 (106K) - Family vehicle
2001 CLK430 Cabriolet (80K) - Wife's car
2005 BMW 645CI (138K) - My daily driver
2016 Mustang (32K) - Daughter's car
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-01-2005, 05:19 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Milford, DE
Posts: 1,558
In the earlier W124's the outside temperature sensor is mounted on the bumper on the left hand side of the bumper. I've always removed the sensor when taking off the bumper, I'm not sure the sensor can be removed without removing the bumper.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-02-2005, 05:52 AM
G-Benz's Avatar
Razorback Soccer Dad
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Dallas/Fort-Worth
Posts: 5,711
Removing the bumpercover just behind the license plate will reveal a hole large enough to get the sensor out from the bumper...the rest of the looming process is a little trickier.

As I stated earlier from experience, it's usually the dash indicator that goes bad, not the sensor wire...
__________________
2009 ML350 (106K) - Family vehicle
2001 CLK430 Cabriolet (80K) - Wife's car
2005 BMW 645CI (138K) - My daily driver
2016 Mustang (32K) - Daughter's car
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-02-2005, 09:28 AM
tino's Avatar
1986 300E (W124,M103)
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Canada
Posts: 110
Did not find sensor

Quote:
Originally Posted by G-Benz
Removing the bumpercover just behind the license plate will reveal a hole large enough to get the sensor out from the bumper...the rest of the looming process is a little trickier.

As I stated earlier from experience, it's usually the dash indicator that goes bad, not the sensor wire...
Did all that and removed the rubber cover from the hole but did not see a sensor or any wiring.
__________________
1986 300E
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-02-2005, 09:44 AM
skiier3_9's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 975
Interesting...perhaps thats why its not working I'd check behind the bumper to see if the sensor has become lodged back there. My car was doing about the same thing (displaying 136F or nothing at all) and it was the sensor. I replaced it with a $1.00 3k thermistor and it has worked well ever since.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-02-2005, 11:29 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 49
How 'bout a W140?

I'm having problems also with my S320 outside air temp. On my old W126 it was right behind the license plate and was pretty obvious. Does anyone know where it is on this car? The only thing that looks remotely like it is mounted vertically between the two fans and looks like a lipstick case with green and brown wires. Is that it or should I keep looking?
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 08-02-2005, 11:29 AM
1988 300CE
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Sacramento, Ca.
Posts: 54
Do you know what the sensor looks like? Go into "Fastlane" at the top of the page click on your year and model, then go to "Body Electrical", then to "Ambient Tempature Sensor" check out the picture. Maybe you can spot it then.
My 88' 300ce reads 136 degrees. Havent had the guts to tackle the job.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 08-02-2005, 11:32 AM
G-Benz's Avatar
Razorback Soccer Dad
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Dallas/Fort-Worth
Posts: 5,711
Quote:
Originally Posted by john berry
My 88' 300ce reads 136 degrees. Havent had the guts to tackle the job.
Go for it...takes about a hour if you work as slowly and methodically as I do...
__________________
2009 ML350 (106K) - Family vehicle
2001 CLK430 Cabriolet (80K) - Wife's car
2005 BMW 645CI (138K) - My daily driver
2016 Mustang (32K) - Daughter's car
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 08-02-2005, 11:35 AM
G-Benz's Avatar
Razorback Soccer Dad
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Dallas/Fort-Worth
Posts: 5,711
Quote:
Originally Posted by skiier3_9
Interesting...perhaps thats why its not working I'd check behind the bumper to see if the sensor has become lodged back there. My car was doing about the same thing (displaying 136F or nothing at all) and it was the sensor. I replaced it with a $1.00 3k thermistor and it has worked well ever since.
Tell us more regarding this "thermistor"?

I've heard of this fix, but I don't know what a thermistor is.

Mine reads off (+- 11 degrees) or doesn't work at all. Obviously, replacing the sensor wire didn't do the trick...
__________________
2009 ML350 (106K) - Family vehicle
2001 CLK430 Cabriolet (80K) - Wife's car
2005 BMW 645CI (138K) - My daily driver
2016 Mustang (32K) - Daughter's car
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 08-02-2005, 12:03 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 49
Quote:
Originally Posted by john berry
Do you know what the sensor looks like? Go into "Fastlane" at the top of the page click on your year and model, then go to "Body Electrical", then to "Ambient Tempature Sensor" check out the picture. Maybe you can spot it then.
My 88' 300ce reads 136 degrees. Havent had the guts to tackle the job.

Thanks John, I didn't think of that. The pic does not look at all what I am seeing so I have to continue my search for this little bugger.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 08-02-2005, 01:46 PM
tino's Avatar
1986 300E (W124,M103)
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Canada
Posts: 110
Found It !

Quote:
Originally Posted by skiier3_9
Interesting...perhaps thats why its not working I'd check behind the bumper to see if the sensor has become lodged back there. My car was doing about the same thing (displaying 136F or nothing at all) and it was the sensor. I replaced it with a $1.00 3k thermistor and it has worked well ever since.
The sensor on my 1986 300E is mounted on the lower side of the drivers side front bumper. You can see the tip of it but I don't know how to dislodge it. Any ideas?
__________________
1986 300E
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 08-02-2005, 03:21 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Milford, DE
Posts: 1,558
You might want to read post #4 in this thread.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 08-02-2005, 03:30 PM
skiier3_9's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 975
Quote:
Originally Posted by G-Benz
Tell us more regarding this "thermistor"?

I've heard of this fix, but I don't know what a thermistor is.

Mine reads off (+- 11 degrees) or doesn't work at all. Obviously, replacing the sensor wire didn't do the trick...
At the end of the wire is a thermistor (a resistor that varies resistance with temperature) The correct value is 3K thermistor (3K at 25C i think) and what I did was cut the end of the wire as close to the metal tube surround, soldered the leads of the thermistor to the wires. Then I BET'd the wires so they didn't short on each other. To mount it on the car I drilled all the old thermistor out of the metal tube/mounting bracket peice, filled it with epoxy, shoved the new thermistor in there and let it dry. Then I bolted it back onto the car and it looks like new (and works well too!) No more 136...it actually reads correct now.

Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Bad Coolant Temp Sensor? sjsfiji Tech Help 1 05-25-2004 04:35 PM
Temp Sensor on air intake 67_280SE Vintage Mercedes Forum 4 03-25-2004 09:26 PM
coolant temp. sensor fgaeta Tech Help 1 12-08-2003 05:44 PM
1996 C220 Outside temp Sensor Location Randy L Tech Help 1 11-27-2003 10:13 AM
Intake Air Temp. Sensor Question rainmaker Mercedes-Benz Performance Paddock 7 08-21-2001 09:38 PM



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:27 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page