So what's this all about ?
(*) 229.5 engine oils must be used with fleece oil filter designed for use with 229.5 engine oils. MBUSA dealers use fleece oil filters for everything now.

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2007 C 230 Sport.

Is someone being fleeced?

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Steve
'87 300TD - 132K - Soon 4-Sale
'84 300D Turbo - 122K - Driving
'77 VW Type II - 77K - Restored
'08 250EX Ninja
English Bulldog (Brier) - My best friend. Passed away 12/02/04 while in my arms.

YES!! everyone who believes that any car should run 10k-15k miles between services!
They are the ones who keep the cars long enough to RUIN the engine & then complain how bad the car was!

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M.B.DOC

Rest assured, I change my oil ( Mobil 1 0W-40 ) every 6 k miles.
With the type of driving I do, the FSS normally adds another 1 k " Bonus " miles, which I ignore anyway.
Brings me back to my question.
Has ANYBODY ever seen the elusive, magical Fleece filter ?
Maybe a partsman ( person ) on this board ?

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2007 C 230 Sport.

I posted this exact question about a month ago. A search should find that post. The answer came back that there was indeed a "fleece" filter (the poster supplied a link to one for sale). However there is not one available for my car so I lost interest. The issue I have is between 229.3 and 229.5. MB specifices 229.3 for my car but all I can find is 229.5 Mobil 1. However, I could probably use Delo 400 and it would be fine. But God forbid, lets please not start another oil thread!!!!!

Mike

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1998 C230 330,000 miles (currently dead of second failed EIS, yours will fail too, turning you into the dealer's personal human cash machine)
1988 F150 144,000 miles (leaks all the colors of the rainbow)
Previous stars: 1981 Brava 210,000 miles, 1978 128 150,000 miles, 1977 B200 Van 175,000 miles, 1972 Vega (great, if rusty, car), 1972 Celica, 1986.5 Supra

HEY !!!! did someone say "Oil thread ?" Aaaaggghhhhh



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[http://languageandgrammar.com/2008/01/14/youve-got-problems-not-issues/ ]

"A liberal is someone who feels they owe a great debt to their fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money."

The fleece oil filter (white in color) tends to use a dark tan/brown bonding material on the ends. This element also has a bead of hot glue on the outer surface which secures the pleats.

The paper oil filter (orangish color) tends to use a black colored bonding material with free floating pleats.

Of corz zis information pertains to zee higher quality filterz zat are availble for za late model Mercedes enginez ja! Pleaze excuze now, I must prepare for za big Oktoberfest, it iz time for beer and zom umpa music!

Fleece filters purportedly are able to hold more contaminants, thus last longer than regular paper filters. This is to match the oil maintenance that the average owner follows with synthetic oil, which is that the filter (and oil) doesn't get changed until over 10K at the next dealer visit.

10K is too long for a paper filter. A fleece type can handle it.

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95 E320 Cabriolet, 159K

Fastlane pics from a 00 ML320 oil filter selection:

Fleece filter:



Standard/paper filter:



I don't think anyone's being "fleeced" lol

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Thanks guys.
Now that I have seen it, I can sleep again at night.

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2007 C 230 Sport.