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Old 02-03-2006, 08:33 PM
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W124 transmission

is an 86' 300E (sedan/gas) transmission interchangeable with 87' 300TD (wagon/deisel) transmission?
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Old 02-05-2006, 10:31 AM
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bump

anybody know this?
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Old 02-05-2006, 11:13 AM
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I donít know for sure, I doubt the diesel case will bolt up to a gas engine. The torque converters are
Not, the diesel has a low stall speed, the crank pilots are different. The diesel shift calibration
In the Valve Body and governor are different, the shifts will be late in a gas motor.
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They should both be 722.3s - exact same transmission - torque converter may well be different.
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Old 02-05-2006, 03:45 PM
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722.3, only means, an automatic transmission with a hydraulic torque converter and 4 forward gears.

A 1995 S600 with an 120 engine has a 722.3 transmission, so does a 1982 300D with a 616engine
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Untrue on both counts - a 95 S600 has a 722.362, an 82 300D has a 722.1 (and a 617 motor).
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Old 02-05-2006, 09:38 PM
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My point is not all 722.3 transmissions are the same, nor have the same bell housing bolt
Pattern, and are not interchangeable with all other 722.3, yes some will but
Not all, and they are both 722.3 transmission

300D, CD, TD 1982 - 85 722.315 $1595.00 $295.00

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Old 02-05-2006, 09:49 PM
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Actually a 82 300D while having a 617 motor does have a 722.3 tranny, think it was a 722.315. Maybe a 722.303.
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Old 02-06-2006, 09:53 AM
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I think it was the 300D turbo that had a 722.3 - the 300D still had a .1, according to my records anyway. Keep in mind the original question was not an 82 .xxx versus a 95 722.xxx but an 1986 .3 versus an 1987 .3.
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Old 02-06-2006, 10:51 AM
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I only was addressing specific information. The original question didn't involve a specific answer, so I didn't answer it. The specific reply that a "82" 300D had a 722.1 trans WAS a specific answer and WAS wrong, atleast for uS models. So I corrected the answer. There was no US non turbo 300D made in 82. In Europe the only turbos occured on station wagons up to some point after 82. Unless one is adding addendums, most consider sales designations to be US or if including euro models one should then make the statement correct. The only way the statement was correct originally is to exclude US models.

The original post asked a question in a way it can't be specifically answered. I could make a case that any trans could be installed in any car, how much money do you have. The case for the diesel and the gas are the same 124 270 64 11 so they will bolt up. The convertors as stated are different, so are the VBs. Could they be used? there isn't an exact answer.
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The specific reply that a "82" 300D had a 722.1 trans WAS a specific answer and WAS wrong, atleast for uS models.
But was correct internationally and this is an international site. I too was correcting erroneous information. A 722.3 (aka .300) of the 86/87 E-class is a specific model within the .3xx family, distinguishable from a 95 .368 or whatever it was. In any case the transmission numbers should be on the side of the transmission just above the pan. If they are exactly the same it should be a go.

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