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Old 03-09-2001, 03:48 PM
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From what I can gather from reading through your thread, you did a retrofit of the '95 E320 head light assembly into your '90 300E? That would mean you would require 55/60W H4 bulbs for your low/high beam, and 55W H3 bulbs for your fog lights. The '94/'95 head light assembly are the same as the Euro head lights in terms of the fact that BOTH are encased within a single glass housing. However, the reflectors in the Euro headlights as well as the etching on the glass allow for a highly patterned beam that looks like ___/ when you fully align the two sides. This seems to be the common set up between BMW and M-B for Euro head lights. The reflector in '94/'95 North American M-B's disperse light across the road evenly, sorta like a flood light, with no definable pattern other than a big circular area in front of your car that is lighted up. I've never had a problem with it, although Vancouver is very well lit at night. However, I am confused as to how you actually did the retrofit? Did you actually have to replace your entire hood/grille in order to fit the lights? I am lookin' at the head light assembly for pre-'94 vs. '94+, and it seems the inner edge of the light assembly are different in order to accomodate for the enlarged grille in the pre-'94 case, and for the protruding grille frame that is a part of the actual hood in the '94+ models. If you like superwhite bulbs, I recommend the Raybrig Magnum White.

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Old 03-09-2001, 07:42 PM
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'94 Headlights on a '92 300E

Here's a picture of the '94 headlights on my '92 300E (I'm crossing my fingers on this):



For more pictures and better detail (including from the engine bay, try this link: http://www.rightbrothers.com/mercedes_pix.htm
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Old 03-09-2001, 08:07 PM
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w124 headlights

Bill - I have the same concern as Duckmuck. How do the 94-95 lights fit the earlier years? Was it a simple swap out or are modifications required? I have a 92 400E and would like to change the lights.

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Old 03-09-2001, 09:12 PM
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bstreep,

Those aren't '94 W124 E-Class headlight assemblies...from what I can see. They look like the Euro replacement head lights for pre-'94 W124 E-Class.
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Old 03-09-2001, 09:19 PM
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Can you post the part number from those lights? I have a strong feeling those are european lights, not 94-95 124 series lights.
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Old 03-09-2001, 09:51 PM
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Why do you want to replacement your head lights to '94+ head lights? Wouldn't your car look better with a simple Euro head light upgrade? That way, you can retain the oversized grille, and the distinct pre-'94 W124 "look", which is more beautiful than the updated '94+ W124. Is it because you can get the '94+ light assembly cheaper than Euro head lights? However, I can't see the cost benefits if you have to replace the entire hood, as well as the grille. Are you thinkin' about buyin' the in-pro grille frame for your hood to accomodate for the '94+ head lights and just get the updated grille? I think that would be the cheapest route to gettin' '94+ head lights onto pre-'94 W124's.
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I am just curious. I have access to a set of 94-95 lights for free, but I do not want to take them if I can not use them.
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Old 03-10-2001, 12:21 AM
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hi bill,

from the pix you posted, i think you have euros.

i think you have euro lights [for earlier w124],the wiper set up [from euro/late 124],u.s. clear turn signal covers.

did you do this conversion or buy your car this way?
if you bought it this way, consider yourself fortunate!
that's the way it was intended to be.

are your city lights hooked up?

is your beam pattern __/, for both lights?

nice looking ride!

my car pix is on page # 3 of the HUGE post of "pictures every contribute"
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Euro or '94?

Well, I originally thought they might be euros after seeing this website. My mechanic said the wipers were for a '94, so he and I both assumed that it was from a '94. The "upgrade" was done before I got the car. Here are part numbers?? on the back of the light 129 851 00. They are Hellas. On the front there are lots of numbers, but this one looked right: 008 129 571. Let me know if I need to look up more numbers. Thanks for the complements, but it's my wife's ride (just hit 28K, believe it or not!). Here's mine:

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WOW...hands down...you vs. wife, you definitely win...nice ride...
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bstreep:
They are Euros: mine came off a grey market car. the drivers light is 129 851 00 on the back with a MB star in a circle stamp. The passenger side is 129 852 00. If you pop off the back, you may see a black "tuna can" vacuum adjuster module that can be hooked up to the Euro leveling control on your dashboard, as in the Star magazine article. I would not be surprised to learn that they were grey market MB OEM lights AND the matching wipers. Cool! About as good as you are going to get in lighting for an MB. You can install Phillips "premium" +30, or "vision Plus" +50 H4 bulbs. Same wattage, differently designed filament in the bulb to focus even more light on the road.
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The article in the "Star" indicates that after the conversion the "lamp-out" warning circuit no longer functions and the indicator has to be disconnected since it would always be on. Have you overcome this problem, or did you just remove the indicator bulb?
Also - a search of previous posts (an hour or two of good information on the conversion) doesn't provide consensus on whether it is necessary to re-wire with heavier gauge wire. Did you re-wire on yours?
I'm trying to find loner wiper motor shafts so I can keep the wipers after the conversion.
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The indicator lamp works fine - I kept the standard wattage bulbs, but went with the 78150 +30 premiums (refocused filament and a trace of Xenon gas) from Hella ( http://catalog.com/susq/hella/bulbs.htm ). Since the wattage didn't change, the warning light isn't "confused". Also, since they are the same wattage, the wiring did not need to be redone. I will probably redo the wiring with relays at some point as thicker wire/relays will allow more current flow to the bulbs, allowing them to run at maximum efficiency.
I have had the Euro lights for almost a year, no trouble with the stock wiring or indicator light when using stock wattage bulbs. I also will be trying the Phillips Vision Plus +50 bulbs from Europe http://www.fosmo.com/ and don't anticipate any problems. Good luck!
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Old 03-11-2001, 12:24 AM
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Euro lights

Well, cool! Glad to know I've be the recipient of another great deal. I didn't put the lights in... Rumor was that the car was a Mexican Embassy car here in San Antonio...

I'll check out the bulbs when I get a chance.

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Headlight and Signal Lens replacement for 1990 300E

So long as I see the headlight as a topic somebody might be able to tell me how to replace the headlight and signal lens for a 1990 300e. Something that I need to watch for in the process, any feedback will be very much appreciated.
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