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Old 04-17-2006, 08:18 PM
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yeah, i have known folks to run kerosene thru a motor. i never thought it was anything i would want to try.

i ran into a couple of guys in morroco in the campground in marakech in 1973. they were arguing... they asked me to judge who was right. one fellow wanted to drive their car out into the desert and drain the oil and then drive it back to the campground and refill it. (not withstanding the environmental issues).

the other guy wanted to replace the oil before starting the motor.

needless to say i sided with the second guy.

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I have had mine to an indicated 125mph. I can think of nowhere that I would feel safe enough or not causing danger to others that I would risk more. Mine is a 1991 560 SEL with AMG LSD with 2.73(Ithink rear gear). 0-60 in about 6.5sec.yarrgghh
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Old 04-20-2006, 05:08 AM
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Changing engines

I wonder if it would be possible to put a 6.9 engine into a 126. It certainly fit into the 116 chassis. Another interesting car would be a 140 with a V12 or even better a V12 R-129 (lighter weight).

Might I make a suggestion? Your video is evidence of wreckless driving. Might be best not to put stuff like that online. Many states will revoke licenses on first time offenses of wreckless driving.

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Old 04-20-2006, 09:08 AM
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i would like to have the opportunity to run my 500sec out and see what she will do. there is noplace i can feel safe, but i have enough room to get up to about 125. i am pretty sure there is quite a bit more avalilable if i had more room. maybe i will be able to get it out on a track day one day.
the 6.9 will surely fit, but it would be quite a bit heavier, and the handling would suffer.

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Old 04-20-2006, 09:14 PM
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I wonder if it would be possible to put a 6.9 engine into a 126. It certainly fit into the 116 chassis. Another interesting car would be a 140 with a V12 or even better a V12 R-129 (lighter weight).

Might I make a suggestion? Your video is evidence of wreckless driving. Might be best not to put stuff like that online. Many states will revoke licenses on first time offenses of wreckless driving.

Going to a 6.9 would be a step down from a euro spec M117. Actualy the M120 and the M119 will bolt into the W126 without to much difficulty. Getting the package to work with the electronics is where the work would be.

An AMG 6L M117 is of course the ultamte W126 power plant.
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Old 04-20-2006, 10:32 PM
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i had a conversation with a benz nut named andy from somewhere in illinois on saturday. he called regarding my son's 300te for sale. he said he had had previously a 560sec amg (i think) that had twin turbos. he said it dynoed with (was it 500?) hp. and it would go 165, he said. it sounded pretty fantastic.

i have no knowledge of such a car, except for this (believable by his manner) conversation.

anybody know of such a model?

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Old 04-20-2006, 10:41 PM
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I am no AMG expert. But I would say that it is possible that such a car was built by them. Back in the 80's you first bought a car from MB, then had it sent to AMG for mods. This cost lots of money so unlike today only people with real $$$$$$ could afford these.

Since it was a custom car more or less AMG would probably do whatever the client wanted for a price of course.

Lots of these heavly modded W126's went to Japan and are recently surfacing. Some were $150k+ cars back when they were bought in the late 80's!

So while I have never run across or heard of a super charged AMG SEC, certianly their could be a handfull of example's out there.

I have run across only the cars with the 6L V8, I think that engine came in a couple different configurations.
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Old 04-20-2006, 10:43 PM
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it could have been a 6L that he was talking of. just cant remember. he said all the trim was painted body color which was navy.

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Old 04-21-2006, 01:15 AM
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I am no AMG expert. But I would say that it is possible that such a car was built by them. Back in the 80's you first bought a car from MB, then had it sent to AMG for mods. This cost lots of money so unlike today only people with real $$$$$$ could afford these.

Since it was a custom car more or less AMG would probably do whatever the client wanted for a price of course.

Lots of these heavly modded W126's went to Japan and are recently surfacing. Some were $150k+ cars back when they were bought in the late 80's!

So while I have never run across or heard of a super charged AMG SEC, certianly their could be a handfull of example's out there.

I have run across only the cars with the 6L V8, I think that engine came in a couple different configurations.

I agree, this Dec when i was in Japan, holy smack aru- i saw so many w126's in MINT condition -- i swear they look all brand NEW. And everyone that i saw was modded some way with AMG...it was stunnung--infact most BMW's and Mercedes i saw were modded to some degree- it was an awsome experience totally out of this world.
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Old 04-21-2006, 01:49 AM
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I have had mine to an indicated 125mph. I can think of nowhere that I would feel safe enough or not causing danger to others that I would risk more. Mine is a 1991 560 SEL with AMG LSD with 2.73(Ithink rear gear). 0-60 in about 6.5sec.yarrgghh
My 4.5 has nowhere near that off the line - damn the combination of a high gear and 3-speed auto! But I have felt safe enough on a local 4-lane highway with virtually no police patrols and long, fairly straight shots to get my 4.5 above an indicated 145. It was hairy on some corners at an indicated 125-135! I would NOT do this now... my front suspension needs some thorough inspecting and adjusting first. This was AFTER fresh subframe mounts, a LF kingpin, and thorough greasing and inspection. Since then my flex disc has developed some visible cracking...

Also, this is with 3.5 heads and cams. Will a stock 4.5 do this speed at all? I dont know. It was quite an effort to accelerate above 140, and 145 was achieved going downhill.
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Old 04-21-2006, 05:11 AM
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holy penguin doo doo batman, that 4.5 still has kingpins?

i wouldnt have thought so.

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i had a conversation with a benz nut named andy from somewhere in illinois on saturday. he called regarding my son's 300te for sale. he said he had had previously a 560sec amg (i think) that had twin turbos. he said it dynoed with (was it 500?) hp. and it would go 165, he said. it sounded pretty fantastic.

i have no knowledge of such a car, except for this (believable by his manner) conversation.

anybody know of such a model?

tom w
The car you are talking about was a grey market 560SEC AMG with a Mosselman TT kit. It was destroyed in an accident with a non-attentive semi-driver in Cincinnati two years ago and subsequently parted on EBAY. Having ridden in the car, I will tell you that it looked like a beater but it would bring the rear out in third. FAST! I have pics somewhere here.... That car is what got me into the "AMG movement"
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Old 04-21-2006, 05:14 PM
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interesting the fellow i talked to seemed for real but i was reluctant to say too much about it here because as i wrote it it sounded a bit far fetched!

i would enjoy seeing the pics if you can locate them.

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when I bought my 1990 560sel 3yrs ago,I drove it from FL to NY and got it up to 130mph. The idle was very rough.After running a compression test,found out that the car had two dead cylinders.Have not driven it that fast since it's been fixed.I imagine it could get up to 155mph,I don't know about 185 though.
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I've had my 1985 euro 500SEL euro over 140 and it was still climbing fast- but I need my license, and my kids need their daddy. I dont believe I will find out how fast the car will go. Is the diff marked with ratio figures on the exterior?

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