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Old 04-18-2006, 12:40 PM
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Rookie in need of A/C help

I have a 1989 mercedes 300 TE waggon. I'm trying to learn how to work on cars. The a/c in my car hasn't worked since I baught it a year ago. Any help or suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

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Old 04-18-2006, 12:45 PM
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I would move this to the technical discussion part of this website. Few posters on Open Discussion actually own cars. We're just here to kick the crap out of George Bush and offer marital advice.
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Old 04-18-2006, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by R Leo
Don't forget the foil hats.
True, you could alway drape a foil hat over the A/C compressor and re-evaluate A/C performance.
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Old 04-18-2006, 01:05 PM
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Old 04-18-2006, 01:12 PM
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You don't really need ac do you?
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Old 04-18-2006, 01:55 PM
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I would move this to the technical discussion part of this website. Few posters on Open Discussion actually own cars. We're just here to kick the crap out of George Bush and offer marital advice.
Does the A/C have a Halliburton?
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Old 04-18-2006, 03:25 PM
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Welcome to the forum!

I've moved this thread to the proper forum - Tech Help.

Good luck with your AC!

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Old 04-19-2006, 12:22 AM
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Here we go:

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Old 04-19-2006, 12:38 AM
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To Sdanos: Its your first post, let's get off on the right foot.
Edit your signature and location. Helps to know where you are located.
Add you car to the signature.

You might want to describe your experience level. How comfortable you are under the hood, etc..

Basically you are going to need to do a very thorough visual inspection of
the various parts. If you are lucky, it is almost nothing wrong at all.
Of 3 cars that had no AC brought to me last summer:
1. had the compressor electrical connector disconnected. We guess it
was to save gas or engine power (??). Reconnecting the compressor
made it work. No cost.
2. The other car had no belt on the compressor. We guessed for same reasons.
Put on a belt, and it worked.
3. Last car simply needed a freon charge. About $35 for a kit to fill it completely.

Those are good stories. This week I am replacing a compressor and drier
and all the freon in my own car (bad compressor clutch). I'll spend about $250 to $300 and about 36 hours (5 or 6 hours labor - the rest waiting for vacuum pump to evacuate system).

Check the compressor, the connections, all the lines.
Look at fuses too. Hopefully nobody messed with it and it will be easier to fix.

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Old 04-19-2006, 05:30 AM
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Some ideas

There are several "ways" to approach an A/C problem depending on how much you care about your car. Most people would say to spend some time diagnosing whats really wrong but most likely your A/C is not working because of a lack of freon. The best way is to roll into your local expert's shop and let them do it correctly and part with a lot of cash in the process.

The first thing you want to do is see if you can get the compressor to engage at all. Read through the owners manual and get familiar with the controls of the A/C system.

If your unable to get the compressor to come on its from two possible sources one being an electrical issue and the other being a lack of coolant issue. The electrical issues are less common and a bit of a pain to trace. More common are leaks in the A/C's systems.

The lack of coolant can be from a number of different ways. The "quck and dirty" way to approach this problem is to get one of the R-134 kits from the local autoparts store and do a partial conversion. If you get the kit with the guage on it (which I would highly reccomend) you can check the pressure of your system. Most likely its empty or way under pressure. Keep in mind that its illegal to release your R12 into the atmosphere for the conversion. Don't charge the system if you have correct pressure as it may not help and you will be destroying some possibly expensive R12 that you have in the system that cools better. At this point you may have identified you have a leak some where in the system. If you have a leak you can "try" to charge the system using the instructions in the charge kit. I would also reccomend a can of leak stop first to plug any small leaks in the system. 9 times out of 10 your A/C will start cooling and your compressor will come on. The A/C system is equipped to shut down the compressor under a low coolant condition to keep from destroying it (the coolant has the lubrication in it). At this point if your really really lucky your system will keep cooling and you wont have to do anything else. If your not lucky which many people are not you would at this point have to trace where the leak is coming from and replace the parts involved.

Before you dive into this portion of your adventure I suggest you develop some knowledge of A/C systems and how they function.

There does come a point where a DIY person should give up and move onto a professional. If you need to do a flush of your system or if you need to open the system for a part replacement (such as a new compressor) its best to let a professional evacuate flush and recharge the system. If you have a slow leak its unlikely air and other contaminates have made it in the system.

Wish you luck on your A/C work! Hopefully you will be lucky and just have a slow leak that can be fixed with leak stop.

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