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Old 11-28-2006, 02:58 PM
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300E misfire when hot.

1990 300E, 148K. Starts and runs great when cold. Runs great on highway. When running around town shows no symptoms. Only after a highway run (I commute 40 miles) it idles rough and takes some babying to accelerate from a stop but smooths out at higher rpm. Attempting to accelerate harder makes it worse. By rough idle I don't mean continuous, rather it misses hard and often but not continuously and not at any particular interval. (Make sense?) After driving around town a while (and not shutting down or cooling off) the miss improves to an almost undiscernable level. Even after a very short rest the symptoms go away and don't reappear until a highway run. The tuneup items are relatively current (the cap, rotor, wires and plugs have 10K on them and all items are Bosch oem spec) and the car performs very well in all areas. This just started last week. No weather changes to speak of and no driving style change. I ran a (strong) tank of Chevron with Techron through with no change. I'm going to start with the plugs but would love to hear input from the forum.
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Old 11-28-2006, 03:06 PM
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Do a search - check the coolant temp sensor.
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Old 11-28-2006, 05:01 PM
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I'll throw in my usual "try to pull the O2 sensor while while running rough" to see if it cures...
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Old 11-28-2006, 05:04 PM
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Thanks Mercoleza. Searched coolant temp sensor but found nothing related to this. If the CTS was faulty, wouldn't the symptoms also show up after extended in-town driving with engine at operating temp? It only happens after a highway run and doesn't seem to be linked to temp reading. Does disconnecting the CTS default to hot or cold perceived temp?
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Old 11-29-2006, 01:08 AM
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Is it using any oil?
Look at the plugs when you pull them.... look what we found with a similar hot only misfire...
Spark Plug Horror! Look!
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Old 11-29-2006, 10:06 AM
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Merkey your plugs look hideous! I remember seeing that thread before.
No oil consumption to speak of. 1 qt in 4000 miles maybe. The plugs looked great and the new ones I put in last night didn't help a bit. Also I have failed to mention that the fuel economy is unchanged and I haven't had a check engine light. And when driving down the road, one would never detect the problem - the car runs great. Don't know if that helps. When I look into the O2 sensor, do I just unplug it below the passenger floor when the problem is apparent and if it improves the sensor is bad?
Thanks to all.
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Old 11-29-2006, 11:18 AM
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When I look into the O2 sensor, do I just unplug it below the passenger floor when the problem is apparent and if it improves the sensor is bad?
Yes.
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Talk about dragging up ancient threads!

Just kidding. The good news is that someone is searching before starting a new thread. A good thing.
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Old 10-12-2016, 02:25 PM
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CJ have you checked the output from alternator?..I was reading ablout the same problem on the other forum.It may need a new alternator regulator. Check all earth points for bad contact clean and grease them up .Fuses as well at the same time , give them a clean.
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