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Old 06-03-2001, 11:37 AM
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I am about to do a engine change on a 87 16V. I called the dealer and asked how much for a print version of the shop manual. They told me no print versions are available and that the cd version is $116. Is there any other option? that seems crazy to me.
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Old 06-03-2001, 12:02 PM
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Did you check Fastlane? They have them for all of the applications for which they are available, I believe. $116 might seem like a lot but it's no more than the set of individual service manuals would be in print were that what was available. But you might, in that case have the option of purchasing the relevant sub-sections covering what you need now, as opposed to buying them for every system at once. I think I've seen "pre-owned" ones in the classifieds here on occasion as well but don't recall the application.

Be thankful they are available at all as they aren't for some!
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Old 06-03-2001, 12:11 PM
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Actually, it's Mercedes Shop that carries them

Looks like they get MB list for them too. Oh well, Think of it as 1.3 hrs of labor at most dealers. It will pay for itself before you are done with just this job.
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Old 06-03-2001, 01:09 PM
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It amazes me how the internet devalues peoples opinion about the value of information. Its almost twenty years now since I would have given a fortune for info on those systems.

Now the advice is free and and I suppose that $116 seems a lot to buy a small portion, since its very unlikely you will make a profession out of it. Seems cheap to me that a manufacturer would provide all its info to repair its cars for less than a days wages.
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Old 06-03-2001, 01:30 PM
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You CAN by the printed manuals, used on ebay...

The chassis service manual
The engine manual
The A/C manual
The electrical troubleshooting manual
The maintenance guide
The owner's manual

All the but the owners manual will set you back at least 40$. The CD's price isn't that bad, especially when you consider the number of engine manuals on the CD and the number of electrical troubleshooting books covered.

Too bad the CDs aren't as good as the paper manuals they replace (for ease of use). The actual info on the CD is identical.

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Old 06-04-2001, 07:01 AM
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I bought the CD Rom and have used it for my 560SEL. Compare the price of the manual to the hourly labor cost to get your car worked on. This manual is specific to your car, and provided by the manufacturer. It has more information in it than you will ever need. Buy the CD Rom and use it for a few repairs. It will pay for itself, many times over.
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But don't get me wrong, I'd never...
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Old 06-10-2001, 01:01 PM
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Old 06-12-2001, 12:11 AM
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The print manuals do turn up on ebay but they typically sell for big $$$. The factory CDs are awkward but work better than when they were first introduced. The amount of information included makes them cheap at the price.
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Old 06-13-2001, 04:06 PM
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I happened to stumble across this today while browsing. Give it a look and see. If you have any questions, send me an e-mail. I may be able to help you. I just rebuilt the head on my 8v.
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