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Mobil-1 changed their ATF formula...
It seems that Mobil can't leave a good thing alone. They changed their Mobil-1 ATF recently to a new "Multi-Vehicle Formula". It has a distinctly different odor than either the previous formula, or the Mercedes ATF. What I don't like is the wording on the bottle - check out this text from the M-1 ATF "MVF" data sheet:
First, it says: "Recommended by ExxonMobil for use in 2005 and earlier GM vehicles." OK, that sounds fine for MB (Dexron) use. But the next sentence says: "Mobil DEXRON-VI ATF is recommended for ... improved performance in 2005 and earlier GM vehicles." So let me get this straight. It's The new M-1 ATF is "recommended" for pre-2005 GM vehicles (i.e., Dexron applications). But for "improved" performance in those same vehicles, we should use their NON-synthetic Dexron-VI fluid? What gives? Also, the new bottle mentions "Mercon" frequently, but says little about Dexron. I managed to scrape up 7 quarts of the old M-1 ATF, and 1 quart of MB fluid, to use in my E500 tranny last night. I really don't like the acrid smell of the new stuff, along with the conflicting statements on the new bottle. Does anyone have more info on this new M-1 "MVF" ATF, or opinions in general...? BTW - the new stuff is also CHEAPER. Wal-Mart has it for $5.67/qt, where the previous M-1 ATF was closer to $7/qt. Side question: Does anyone know if the OE/dealer fluid is synthetic fluid, or not? (Part # is 001-989-21-03-10, the bottle says "Made In Germany"). I'm VERY tempted to switch to either that (if it's synthetic), or Amsoil/RedLine ATF, for future trans fluid changes in my MB's. |
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The MB number 001-989-21-03-10 was replaced by 001-989-45-03-10.
Both are Dexron "based" trans fluids. You can safely use that fluid on any MB auto trans!
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If you have both MB (not synthetic) and Mobile 1 (synthetic) ATF which one would you prefer to use on a 600SEL 1992 and a 560SEL?
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After further research on the "new" Mobil-1 fluid (Mercon V), I've decided that I don't want to use it in my Mercedes transmissions. It's not officially Dexron-approved. |
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If I'm not mistaken, they have stopped licensing Dexron, therefore no currently manufactured ATF can officially call itself Dexron any more.
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What replaces Dexron 3????
I was looking for Dexron 3 recently and the stores had none. Lots of other ATF designations but no Dexron 3. What should I use to replace it?
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http://www.mobil1.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Other_Products/Mobil_Dexron_VI_ATF.aspx |
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Just use Amsoil or Redline.
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Still looking for something with a more in-depth explanation.
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Is part # z8001-107773 full synthetic ?
why is this one $14 a liter
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FWIW...I used Castrol Transmax Z Fully Synthetic ATF during my recent C36 AMG transmission ATF fluid change. I am very impressed with the quicker gear engagement and silky smooth gear changes.
http://www.castrol.com/liveassets/bp_internet/castrol/castrol_australia/STAGING/local_assets/downloads/a/AU_Castrol_Transmax_Z.pdf |
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That is very likely what I will end up doing. It's just that Mobil-1 was easier to obtain than Amsoil or Redline (and maybe a bit cheaper, too).
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I know thats why I was using M1. But it seems like they keep screwing with their product.
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