Rebuilt transmissions from ADSITCO - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

575Maranello · #1 08-15-2008, 10:32 AM

Chaps,

My wife's 1995 E320 will need a new transmission [139K miles]. Our local MB independent shop estimates a $5K job.

ADSITCO sells rebuilt transmissions included rebuilt torque converter for $1,795.00 plus shipping.

ADSITCO is a reputable company but would like to know if anyone has experience with their rebuilt parts - engine, transmissions, etc. Do they use genuine MB parts?

Thanks much in advance.

Orazio

E150GT · #2 08-15-2008, 12:02 PM

I have heard less than good things about them. Perhaps try a reputable transmission shop in you area.

jhodg5ck · #3 08-15-2008, 01:09 PM

I burned through 2 of their transmissions in less then 10K.... we do our own now!

Jonathan

Peter Guenther · #4 08-15-2008, 03:59 PM

I have not heard good things, I would check with your MB dealer, they offer a factory rebuilt (2yr warr), a little over 5K...less without the torque converter.

jhodg5ck · #5 08-15-2008, 04:01 PM

We can do quite a bit better then 5K and our transmission are built to w/ stand far more torque and abuse compared to the original boxes

Jonathan

compress ignite · #6 08-15-2008, 04:12 PM

(And, No I do not work for or have any financial recompense from these nice people)

Peter Schmid Transmission AKA MZF,Inc.

They just quoted me about $1900.00 (with the core sent to them) + freight.
[On a 1990 124.128 with a 722.418 transmission.]

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gsxr · #7 08-15-2008, 06:22 PM

ADSITCO has a horrible reputation. Avoid them at all costs. Period. There used to be a detailed thread about those
thieves, but I can't find it at the moment. Here's some light reading in the meantime....

http://www.ai.org/judiciary/opinions/pdf/10160704jgb.pdf

Recent Adsit purchase experience

Adsitco.com BEWARE!!!

Price problem with Adsit Company....??? (check out post #16 also, on page 2)

I'd get the tranny done by Jonathan at Blue Ridge MB, or by Peter Schmid. Or your local MB dealer. $5k is a ripoff, though. BTW, I don't think anyone "rebuilds" torque converters. They just clean & test old ones, and offer a warranty on them. It's not an item that can be disassembled and repaired.

jhodg5ck · #8 08-15-2008, 06:36 PM

Thanks Dave

Just to stand out a little our TC'ers are cut open, inspected and we use torrington bearings in place of the stock bits..they're a fairly Stout TC to begin with but again, it's the little parts that can bite you in the end!

I started this upgrade after killing the bearing in my white 560...

Jonathan

Oracle12345 · #9 08-15-2008, 09:01 PM

Why did the transmission fail with 139k miles???

Poor maintaince?

A transmission should last over 200,000 with proper maintaince

hey_allen · #10 08-15-2008, 10:30 PM

The local rebuilder disassembles TC's as well, though I don't know what else they do with them while they're apart.

Barring that, I would be highly leery of just flushing and reinstalling one, at least if there had been metalic debris running around the failed tranny.

575Maranello · #11 08-16-2008, 10:17 AM

I would like to clarify that the tranny did not fail, it makes a noise when it is in reverse otherwise, it drives fine but the mechanic said that if the condition persists it needs to be rebuilt.

My question is: why is it making noise, why did the car need new lifters, R&R cylinder head, ram shafts, gaskets, you name it at a cost of $3,400 when my car has been religiously maintained every 4K miles? It was done this week.

Please notice that we bought the car new in 1995 and the mechanic is a well established MB only independent dealer, we have been going there for almost 15 years.

Could it be that it is a stop and go car driven slowly by my wife for just a few miles a day? I am at a loss here.

Orazio
1995 E320
1993 500E

deanyel · #12 08-16-2008, 11:14 AM

You don't yet need a transmission rebuild yet. The whole point of repairing a transmission with only a clicking noise in reverse is to get it early, and do less than a full rebuild. Resigned to a full rebuild you might as well drive till it quits - which in my experience could be as much as several years from now.

Peter Guenther · #13 08-16-2008, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 575Maranello

I would like to clarify that the tranny did not fail, it makes a noise when it is in reverse otherwise, it drives fine but the mechanic said that if the condition persists it needs to be rebuilt.

My question is: why is it making noise, why did the car need new lifters, R&R cylinder head, ram shafts, gaskets, you name it at a cost of $3,400 when my car has been religiously maintained every 4K miles? It was done this week.

Please notice that we bought the car new in 1995 and the mechanic is a well established MB only independent dealer, we have been going there for almost 15 years.

Could it be that it is a stop and go car driven slowly by my wife for just a few miles a day? I am at a loss here.

Orazio
1995 E320
1993 500E

My 92 500SEL transmission started making clicking noises at about 90K while backing up, it was serviced at 50K and again about 90K they seemed to think it was an indication of impending failure. MB does not rebuild any more so about 95K it started to engage very slowly in reverse, and then lurch.
Bottom line, got quotes from various people who claimed they could do it cheap, went with MB rebuilt (2year warranty). Of course they found other things like seeping lines, it did not need a converter. $3500 for trans, plus labor and other things.
I tend to agree with Jonathan

gsxr · #14 08-16-2008, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 575Maranello

I would like to clarify that the tranny did not fail, it makes a noise when it is in reverse otherwise, it drives fine but the mechanic said that if the condition persists it needs to be rebuilt.

My question is: why is it making noise, why did the car need new lifters, R&R cylinder head, cam shafts, gaskets, you name it at a cost of $3,400 when my car has been religiously maintained every 4K miles? It was done this week.

Could it be that it is a stop and go car driven slowly by my wife for just a few miles a day? I am at a loss here.

Orazio,

Well, a head gasket job is not uncommon after 15 years. New lifters seems odd, and new camshafts sounds very suspicious (camshafts almost never need replacement).

But the few miles per day driving... that is brutal on any car. The oil never gets up to temp, condensation never evaporates, etc. Even 4000 mile service intervals are too long with dino oil, if driven like this. I would immediately (at next service) switch the engine and transmission to fully synthetic fluids, which better cope with severe service conditions. And try to take the car on at least a 20-30 minute drive, a couple of times per month, to get everything up to operating temp.

About the transmission... drive it until it blows up. Seriously. And when it does, don't go anywhere that wants $5k to do the work (especially if they soaked you for new camshafts... I'd want to get the old cam & lifters and see why they needed replacement!). I bet you could find an MB dealer to do the tranny for ~$4k and you'll have a nationwide, 2/24 warranty as well.

FWIW, my 1987 300D is nearing 300kmi on the original tranny. It's been re-sealed twice (first at 150k, and again at 250k) but all the internals are original. I've been using synthetic ATF almost since I bought it (at ~190k). So far, it still shifts fine...

Dcraig · #15 02-27-2009, 10:55 AM

I too have a sound in reverse. Transmissions can go out anytime after 130,000 depending on a lot of factors. Mine started slipping at 150,000, now I'm at 180,000, so it's time for a new one.

I'm going here. $1750 installed, 2 year, 24,000 mile warranty. I've bought parts from them before and they're great. I told him I beat my transmission so it better be made well and he told me to beat on it all I want.

And I think if you wait until it self-destructs you'll take out a lot of other important (expensive) parts. If you call he can tell you what the sound in reverse is from. They ship all over.

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