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12-22-2008, 11:04 PM
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Need some help with removing...
The tumbler, as you know that i have a E320 that the last owner lost the key, dose anyone know where to drill beside drilling the tumbler, is there a sweet spot that i can drill to remove the lock assembly>???
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Current Garage 2008 Mercedes GL320 CDI 188k mi Repair/Work in progress 1994 S350 160k mi Garage Queen & prepping for repairs 2005 E320 CDI 203k mi Healthy & Daily Driver 1994 S350 357k mi Retried as parts car 1984 300TD 214k mi Blown OM617 Poss OM603 Swap?? Sold 1987 300SDL 200K+ 1994 S320 181K mi 2008 E320 Bluetec 127k mi 1999 S420 130K mi 1980 240D 360k mi 15+ Others that has come, stay and gone GONE, BUT NOT FORGOTTEN  1995 E320 SE 220k mi 1984 300SD 350k mi 
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12-22-2008, 11:06 PM
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Why not obtain a key from the dealer?
You own the vehicle legally, correct? Prove this at the dealer (title copy, registration, insurance, etc) plus a valid photo ID... off you go. 
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I'm not a doctor, but I'll have a look.  '85 300SD 245k '87 300SDL 251k '90 300SEL 326k Six others from BMW, GM, and Ford. Liberty will not descend to a people; a people must raise themselves to liberty.[/IMG]
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12-22-2008, 11:10 PM
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IIRC this is the one that the original owner lost the key and someone replaced the original one and then lost THAT key? This might be why he wants to drill... ran out of options...
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1983 300D-Turbo - Deep Blue w Palomino MB Tex (total loss in fire 1/5/09 RIP) 1995 E320 W124 Polar White/Grey Mushroom MB Tex 2005 F150 Supercrew - Arizona Beige - Lear topper 1985 Piaggio Vespa T5 - Black and Chrome www.cphilip.com
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12-22-2008, 11:11 PM
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AH, that makes sense.  My 560 came like that, someone spent time and money replacing the tumbler + key versus obtaining the proper key for LESS money at the dealer. 
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I'm not a doctor, but I'll have a look. '85 300SD 245k '87 300SDL 251k '90 300SEL 326k Six others from BMW, GM, and Ford. Liberty will not descend to a people; a people must raise themselves to liberty.[/IMG]
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12-22-2008, 11:23 PM
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do you think opening the steering column is the right way??? it seem that's the only good way to open W/O drilling...
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Current Garage 2008 Mercedes GL320 CDI 188k mi Repair/Work in progress 1994 S350 160k mi Garage Queen & prepping for repairs 2005 E320 CDI 203k mi Healthy & Daily Driver 1994 S350 357k mi Retried as parts car 1984 300TD 214k mi Blown OM617 Poss OM603 Swap?? Sold 1987 300SDL 200K+ 1994 S320 181K mi 2008 E320 Bluetec 127k mi 1999 S420 130K mi 1980 240D 360k mi 15+ Others that has come, stay and gone GONE, BUT NOT FORGOTTEN 1995 E320 SE 220k mi 1984 300SD 350k mi
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12-22-2008, 11:25 PM
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Can you pop the air bag off easily?
126s have a few allen bolts that secure it. Then I'd remove the retaining nut, mark it... pull the wheel. LOTS more room to move about.
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I'm not a doctor, but I'll have a look. '85 300SD 245k '87 300SDL 251k '90 300SEL 326k Six others from BMW, GM, and Ford. Liberty will not descend to a people; a people must raise themselves to liberty.[/IMG]
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12-22-2008, 11:32 PM
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Something doesn't make sense here.... Did he just replace the ignition tumbler and leave all the others original? Unless the ignition tumbler was replaced, it should match the VIN. If all the other tumblers were replaced at the same time, you should be able to get a locksmith to make a key from the numbers on the door tumblers. (I think....)
-tp
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12-22-2008, 11:40 PM
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And I know that my 300D is that way too. One of the PO's changed the Ignition but not the doors. I fear with no records. One day I will fix that... when I run out of other things to do on a 83 300D... 
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1983 300D-Turbo - Deep Blue w Palomino MB Tex (total loss in fire 1/5/09 RIP) 1995 E320 W124 Polar White/Grey Mushroom MB Tex 2005 F150 Supercrew - Arizona Beige - Lear topper 1985 Piaggio Vespa T5 - Black and Chrome www.cphilip.com
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12-23-2008, 01:34 PM
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The most sensible and economic way, IMO, is to order a new vin-matched ignition tumbler from a dealer. It will come with one new key for around $100 (depending on the dealer). If someone knows of an on-line source that is cheaper, I'm interested.
Anyway, that will give you a key that fits the doors, and you can always have them send a second key for a little more $$. Then, call a locksmith, have the ignition picked. Once it is turned to position II, you stick two pins (paperclips, allen-wrenches, correct tool, etc.) into the two holes and the cylinder with hardened tamper-resistant ring pop out so that you can simply insert the new ones. You'll have maybe $150 into it, but you need the door key anyway, and you'll need an ignition tumbler anyway. If you choose to grind it out, it's been done, you need to grind the black retaining ring off so that you can get the tumbler out. You run a substantial risk of slipping and damaging a $$ dash, plus you'll need the rataining ring and have a mess to clean up. Do you already have a door key that works?
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12-24-2008, 06:10 PM
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Today we finally got that dang thing out, we drilled the locking pin, use a screwdriver to push it out, and use a hammer and knock it out and wah la, ITS Out now is just installing it back and firing it
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Current Garage 2008 Mercedes GL320 CDI 188k mi Repair/Work in progress 1994 S350 160k mi Garage Queen & prepping for repairs 2005 E320 CDI 203k mi Healthy & Daily Driver 1994 S350 357k mi Retried as parts car 1984 300TD 214k mi Blown OM617 Poss OM603 Swap?? Sold 1987 300SDL 200K+ 1994 S320 181K mi 2008 E320 Bluetec 127k mi 1999 S420 130K mi 1980 240D 360k mi 15+ Others that has come, stay and gone GONE, BUT NOT FORGOTTEN 1995 E320 SE 220k mi 1984 300SD 350k mi
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