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How is your radiator? No blockages? You reversed flush this - I assume - when you flushed your coolant out?
Why I mention getting your system pressure tested is that the water pump may be not working properly and circulating water around the system efficiently enough. The temperature in my city reached 115 degrees last summer. The temp on my 103 reached around 110 degrees - at highway speeds. This was with a leak at the water pump (since repaired). |
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87-90*C while on the freeway is normal - the thermostat should be an 87*C unit for your car.
The fan clutch is engaged when cold-started first thing in the morning, it should resist freewheeling and give you a nice roar for 20 sec or so when you first get going. You don't need a new fan - the clutch unbolts from the fan once it's out of the car. The aux fans have two speed settings, one for the low temp/AC and one for the high temp. My old 300E had been rejiggered by the dealer to run at the high temp speed whenever it was engaged, probably because it tended to run hot in the summer. |
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My 300E fully engages the clutch around 90C...and turns on the electric fans on high (regardless of the A/C being on) around 105C......
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Also at higher revs the fan clutch disengages. At over 30kms per hour the air movement through the radiator renders the fans redundant. Even at extreme ambient air temperatures the system should keep the engine temperature at or less than 110 degrees - not up in the red. This is why I suggest a coolant circulation problem. It is my H.O. that the M103 engines should have idiot lights rather than a temp gauge - which seem to worry many people by the temp oscillations. |
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I know that just sitting in the drive through food lane, my car will shoot up to 100C within 5 minutes of idling. If it's anywhere above 80F ambient, it will hit 105C. Then the aux fans will kick in full force. But if I had a weak fan clutch, and no aux fans, I could see it hitting 115 easily.
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The main fan can be adjusted to come on earlier at around 95 'C.
as can the aux fans. |
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Anybody have a pic of the blue sensor on the head? I don't see one on my 87. Maybe different color?
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Test the fan clutch by simply turning the fan with the engine off and see if it coasts. If it does, replace the fan clutch.
The electric fan is actuated by high side a/c pressure and will not come on unless the a/c is on and the high side pressure is dangerously high. It's only purpose is to bring down that dangerous high side pressure. |
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On my 87 it is not blue....It is a big green sensor with two 'plugs' that go into it...
Anybody done it with this model?
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Cal Learners image might be from the later model M103's.
Here's an image from the earlier M103. The ECU temp sensor is a two pole green sensor in this variation. Your aux fan arrangement maybe a single fan and not the dual as per later update W124's.
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So it is the water temp sensor on that image?
If so, that is the one I "attempted" to do. I unplugged with Key ON. Then started the car and the aux fan did not turn on...I thought maybe it was the wrong sensor, but maybe not? I checked the fuse and it looks fine. Like I said though, when the A/C was functional, the aux fan was working fine.
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That sensor is the water temp gauge sensor for the gauge in the instrument cluster.
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![]() Is it the green one then? If so, which plug do I remove? Is it the same process so I can just do a trial-error to figure it out?
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How many sensors do you have there? Three or four?
The green sensor is normally in the very rear of the head. That "should" be the sensor for engine control. I don't want to second guess here - U.S. Specced cars are different from Euro's and cars specced for the R.O.W. In the later models with dual fans there are two relays one actuates the fans at low speed - AC derived operation one actuates the fans to high speed - sensor derived operation. |
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