Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support > Tech Help

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #16  
Old 07-25-2010, 03:19 PM
Stretch's Avatar
...like a shield of steel
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Somewhere in the Netherlands
Posts: 14,461
I've just had a look at my front wheels and the gaps look similar to yours MBeige... would you be willing to measure your wheel base? I'd be interested to find out if it was 2795mm.

Mine is 2810 at the moment.

__________________
1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver
1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone
1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy!
1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing

I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior



Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits!
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 07-25-2010, 10:27 PM
Gilly's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Evansville WI
Posts: 9,616
Quote:
Originally Posted by MBeige View Post
You would want a higher caster - the straight measurement on mine when I had an alignment was around 8.3 deg. To give you a better picture, the wheel was closer to the front edge of the wheel well arch than previously, where the caster was 6.x degrees.

This is how mine is right now after alignment.



It might not be too obvious here, but if you compare mine (yellow/beige w123) to the others the positioning of my wheel is not as it was above (this was prior to the alignment). Other w123s beside me had better caster, their front wheels were more forward in the wheel well than mine.

In the picture, it also looks like the yellow/beige one has the wheels turned to the left a little, which is changing the gap, or at least the appearnce of the gap in the picture.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 07-26-2010, 01:34 AM
MBeige's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: SoCal
Posts: 3,746
Actually the wheels on my 300D (yellow) are straight when I took that photo. The gap is that bad with the caster around 6.x degrees instead of 8.x to 9.x as it should be.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 07-26-2010, 10:09 PM
Gilly's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Evansville WI
Posts: 9,616
Now that you mention it, it looks like the car itself might be pointing a bit to the left compared with the other cars, does that make more sense?
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 07-26-2010, 10:27 PM
MBeige's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: SoCal
Posts: 3,746
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
Now that you mention it, it looks like the car itself might be pointing a bit to the left compared with the other cars, does that make more sense?
I suppose it could be, but I know first hand how large the gap was and how it is now.

I've been observing the difference in wheel well gap between various W123's to know that the caster on mine was bad at that time and for a while. The space in front of the wheel is larger than it should be. And this was confirmed when I had an alignment done, which corrected the problem.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 08-07-2010, 02:22 PM
Stretch's Avatar
...like a shield of steel
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Somewhere in the Netherlands
Posts: 14,461
I've found the actual numerical data for the caster, toe-in, and camber for the following vehicles => R107, W123, and W126.

I've posted the data here:-

W123 Caster / castor settings for a sedan / saloon?

I'm still working on the answer to the wheel base question. My final source of information comes back from holiday in a few weeks!
__________________
1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver
1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone
1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy!
1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing

I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior



Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits!

Last edited by Stretch; 08-07-2010 at 02:23 PM. Reason: Made it better!
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 09-02-2010, 05:17 AM
Stretch's Avatar
...like a shield of steel
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Somewhere in the Netherlands
Posts: 14,461
Update:-

My final and official source of information is back from holiday:-

Apparently so long as your threaded attachments (on the suspension) are in safety you don't have to worry about the wheel base dimension - use it as a guide. Apparently there is no official tolerance for this dimension - neither for the dimension between the front wheels...

__________________
1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver
1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone
1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy!
1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing

I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior



Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:50 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page