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No vacuum leaks, been over everything with a spray can.
'89 doenst have codes. I think it was the last one not to. Work currently aborted due to rain ''reconsider the water sensor and the resistor you installed'' reconsider what? It stopped the 1200+ rpm idle at ~80c FWIW, the pot adjustment was made by sliding the full assembly up / down from the far right. What does the itty bitty adjustment towards the center actually adjust ?
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My car has a similar idle problem and the fault codes and these are what I had initially:
"7 TNA (Engine RPM) Signal 14 Road Speed Signal At CIS-E Control Unit 18 Current To Idle Speed Air Valve 27 Data Exchange Fault Between CIS-E Control Unit and EZL ignition Control Unit" Cleared the codes and the only one that still comes up is 14. From what I have read, most common issue is the failure of the hall effect sensor that is on the back of the speedometer. Other potential issue is the CIS computer itself. I have a likely good used one that is waiting to be installed just haven't been able to do that in the past 4 months. My issue really isn't that bad atm. Part number is 0075422917, should be about $55 at the dealer.
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89 seems to be a production break point.
Your 93 electronics are different than mine but thanks
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I believe the inside diameter of the mechanical valve is 1/2". The IAC is Normally Open unpowered, so that's why your idle is high. Try the gate valve idea, less than $10.
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The potentiomiter
Potentiomiter may be the problem ,remove it and check out the carbon track if worn its shot.
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Quote:
As for the little adjustment thing in the centre of the potentiometer that's the fine tuning. "Everyone" says don't touch it.
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He's already done that I think
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If you don't have the ability to measure fault "blips" then I believe the fault codes are given in terms of on off ratio aren't they?
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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver 1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone 1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy! 1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior ![]() Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits! |
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Potentiometer is brand new, no change
I dont know bout the fault codes tilac, sure cant hurt
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Tnbob Take the vacuum pipe of the brake servo and check vacuum with a guage .And if it fluctuates with it off the problem is on the engine side. Blockthe pipe with a bung then If it is stable your brake servo is leaking vacuum.
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opti... thats one I actually havent tried yet.
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tnbob let us know please how you get on with it .
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rain, wind and coool postponed work
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for new readers/problem solvers, here is a recap
New cap and rotor New fuel distributor new EHA, torx's replaced with flat head screws new pot on front of FD NEW vacuum hoses to and from the IAC, one to the block is a real (&^*(&^* IAC replaced with used one, both tested good. OVP relay replaced, no change New injector boots New temp sensor with resistor mod. The temp sensor stopped the high (1200ish rpm) idle Vacuum leak checked with carb cleaner spray. NONE found Things to do: Confirm alternator voltage regulator is working properly Change fuel pump relay with new one. Replace IAC with gate or ball valve setup Start a mold for some type of as of yet unknown shaped charge
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I did find a nice pictorial of how/what/who the IAC is supposed to do.
http://www.k-jet.org/img/articles/diagrams/cis_system1.jpg
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