Tick, tick fixed tnx to Donnie! - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

JimF · #1 05-15-2002, 07:05 PM

Developed a ticking noise about a month ago and also noticed that my oil pressure had dropped abit. But the lowered oil pressure did not alert me to anything that would associate with the ticking noise. It should have but tnx to Donnie, it's now fixed!

Donnie has alerted me and others about the infamous oil tubes used in the 119 engine. Also on the CD-ROM, there's a MB TSB (issued in '95) about these oil tubes.

What goes wrong?? Check this picture of an oil tube removed from my engine this morning. Actually there were two with the ends blown out!! One on cyclinder #2 and the other on #3. How about that!!

The oil pressure is back to normal (stays around '2' bar) at idle and NO MORE TICK!

Tnx DONNIE!

#2 05-15-2002, 09:43 PM

Howdy Jim,

I have a question for ya. Where exactly are these little critters positioned??? I can't seem to locate them in any reference material I have. Thanks.

Benzmac · #3 05-15-2002, 09:45 PM

They are #65 on the pic.

#4 05-15-2002, 09:56 PM

OK, I am going to go and get a eye check-up now as I can't see *****. Are there many special tools needed to do this R/R, looks like you might only need the tubes and a set of valve cover gaskets?

Thanks Donnie.

400E · #5 05-16-2002, 08:03 AM

Jim,
Where on the CD is that TSB? I looked and couldn't find it. I'm pretty sure I have an updated CD since it has other '95 modifications.

THanks,
Steve

stevebfl · #6 05-16-2002, 08:23 AM

Great pictures Jim.

Here is the text of the bulletin:

stevebfl · #7 05-16-2002, 08:29 AM

Don't know how to put two images on one file:

JimF · #8 05-16-2002, 09:39 AM

Roas: Stevebfl's latest pic shows them clearly; It's #65 in the first picture.

400E: On the ALL-DATA CD, the TSB is located after clicking 'ENGINE'. A sub menu called 'TSB' come ups. There's three (3) items on my CD. If you want to see what it says, click below ('WWW' house) to go to my web page, then select Menu #18.

Stevebfl: Tnx for the clarification.

JimF · #9 05-16-2002, 10:16 AM

Roas, I'm sure you figured it out already but if not here's how to remove them using Steve's annotated figure.

To change a pair of oil tubes (in blue), loosen and remove the camshaft brackets so as to slip the 'tits' (red arrows) on the oil tubes under the camshaft brackets. Do ONE-PAIR-AT-A-TIME since the camshafts are under tension. Then replace the bracket and tighten before moving on to the next pair. That's the way I did it.

Parts:
1) Buy a valve cover kit because you will want to change the gasket and the spark plug seals.
2) Will probably need a 'breather' tube assy. Mine was like the petrified forest!!
3) Will probably need the chain tensioner clamp. If it is as brittle as mine was, it will break when trying to remove it.

That should do it.

jsap · #10 11-15-2006, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JimF

3) Will probably need the chain tensioner clamp. If it is as brittle as mine was, it will break when trying to remove it.

That should do it.

Jim, I was just wondering: I can't tell from your picture where the chain tensioner clamp is. Is there a part number for that?

ProV1 · #11 11-15-2006, 02:14 PM

JimF,

Thanks for the info. On your website, you mention that the ticking came back even after replacing the oil guides, but autoRX finally cured the ticking noise once and for all? Did the ticking go away during the cleaning phase, or the rinsing phase?

JimF · #12 11-15-2006, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ProV1

JimF,

Thanks for the info. On your website, you mention that the ticking came back even after replacing the oil guides, but autoRX finally cured the ticking noise once and for all? Did the ticking go away during the cleaning phase, or the rinsing phase?

Did you really read the four (4) paragraphs at the bottom of MENU#19 in BLUE??

To summarize; I used a 'engine flush' as stated and then later used ARX to clean/remove any sludge/teflon, etc.

I did use products like Slick 50, Prolong, etc thinking that it would lower friction; well it's all BS and it left some partially plugged oil passages/lifters as its byproducts.

When the ARX was started the tick-tick was intermittant. It could have been, as many say, a byproduct of loosening/removing sludge. But as I remember, the car was 99% tick free during the cleaning phase of ARX.

Now in the maintenence phase, I've not heard a lifter tick in apx 3 years.

AMG CE 36 · #13 11-17-2006, 06:55 PM

Sorry for hi-jacking the thread for a similar issue. My M113 has a slight mechanical "noise" at the left forward part of the engine block. After having this for a month I got a pretty loud tick-tick at startup, almost as when oil pressure is low for a couple of seconds, but this remained for a good minute or two. Then disappeared and didn´t come back on repeated startups until the engine has been stopped overnight.

So I made an oil and filter change, Mobil 1 0-40 as usual. After this I can still hear the tick-tick but much less although for the same good minute.

The slight mechanical noise is the same as before oil change.

What can cause this, it sounds like a single valve tick, but I am not sure. Can anything related to the cam chain and tensioner make a tick and also this lower noise?

Engine runs smooth and no extra exhaust smoke from what I can see.

JimF · #14 11-15-2006, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jsap

Jim, I was just wondering: I can't tell from your picture where the chain tensioner clamp is. Is there a part number for that?

Sure there is . . . but don't happen to know it. When you get near it, you can read the part number on it.

#15 05-16-2002, 03:17 PM

The "ticking" we are talking about, is it a loud, medium, or quiet sound at cold start-up?
I'm wondering if this is one of those maintenance items that should be added to the "Must Do", "Should Eventually Do", or "Don't do until it Happens" list.