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Old 01-17-2003, 12:32 AM
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When I turned 16 I started with a w123 300td. I loved the car. Motor ran forever. One big plus was nobody wanted to tailgate because of all the fumes pouring out of the back. And it is very safe.

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Old 01-17-2003, 12:48 AM
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I have soooooooooo much trouble with tail gaters, I think I am gonna get a diesel, I never thought that way. But I must say (though I don't speak from experience) w123 is from what I have heard a very reliable car. And also there is ONE 240D with over a million miles on it in this world, which shows that these cars are reliable. I found out about that when I ordered that high mileage badge.
It also depends on your daughter. My first car (age 17, 1996) was a 1991 300E AMG, it was a beautiful car and I never let the rpm go over 2500RPM in any gear. I kept it clean and waxed all the time and tire polished etc etc, and I was the one who would remind my dad about when the oil changes etc were due. That car spoiled me so much that I tried 7 different cars after that and came back to an MB (420SEL)

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Old 01-17-2003, 07:26 AM
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A while back I purchased a 240D with under 120k miles that did not run. Somewhere on this site I documented the engine rebuild and getting the car back on the road. Anyway, I sold the car to my sister for my neice (16) to drive. Since getting the car in May of last year she has dented the front left fender slightly and one of the kids at school rear ended her pulling out of the parking lot. I sold the car to my sister for $2k and the rear end incident repair was quoted by a local, reputable body shop at $2700. Anyway, the kids father did not want the rear end incident to show up on the insurance so he is paying my sister the $2700 for the repair. Understand that the body shop quoted all new parts - heck the rear taillights were quoted at around $238/each and I have two good, used sets sitting on my shelf at the house. I should be able to get the trunk lid at the local pull a parts place pretty cheap. I have a couple friends that do body repair work and am thinking we will be able to get the car fixed and totally painted (it needs a paint job bad) for under $1500.

The point of all this is to get her something (I strongly recommend a W123) that is safe and it won't break your pocket book nor heart if and when it gets damaged.
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Old 01-18-2003, 08:05 PM
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Wink first car

I always thought that a first car ever for a new driver should be a light one, lower sized engine for speed control and economy and also one which is used, not brand new due to the amount of damage it will be given in the very first year of use. If you want protection from serious damage, look for a W123, but it will cost quite a bit for body and structural repairs unless Dad is in the money then its ok. Otherwise look for a cheap Honda or Toyota or others in this category just for the initial "getting used to driving" period of say 12 months or more for others. This is the case here and the newly graduated high school students usually get a 10 year old car like a Laser, Corolla, Camry, Civic and trash it around until they are ready for a new or nearly new car they are confident of taking care of.
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Old 01-18-2003, 10:13 PM
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i am the 16 year old daughter

I just want to say thank you to everyone that replied to my dads post. i really hope that it worked but we will have to see wont we. i love him but he is cheap so i think i might not be getting one. i just want to say thanks again and if u have anymore tips that may convince him to get me a MB please send them every little bit helps.


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'03 LS430 (Lexus)
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Old 01-18-2003, 10:19 PM
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hi i am the 16 year old daughter

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Originally posted by ILUVMILS
Awww, c'mon Dad. How 'bout a nice CL600? Safe? Yep. Reliable? Absolutely! Cost? ..................Hey, it's your little girls first car!!! Good luck
I like waht you said to my dad i hope that it works. we will see.
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'86 560SL (186K) - Now a 'classic' : Registered as an Historic Vehicle
'95 E420 (198K)
'99 E320 (80K)
'03 LS430 (Lexus)
- - - - -
'95 E420 (231K) Sold to a happy buyer, new to Mercedes
'90 300E (65K) Sold to an Mercedes Lover
'92 190E (215K) - retired to the salvage yard, sigh
'93 500SEL (214K) - Moved to another family, still runs like a young pup
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Old 01-18-2003, 10:21 PM
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Awww, c'mon Dad. How 'bout a nice CL600? Safe? Yep. Reliable? Absolutely! Cost? ..................Hey, it's your little girls first car!!! Good luck
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'86 560SL (186K) - Now a 'classic' : Registered as an Historic Vehicle
'95 E420 (198K)
'99 E320 (80K)
'03 LS430 (Lexus)
- - - - -
'95 E420 (231K) Sold to a happy buyer, new to Mercedes
'90 300E (65K) Sold to an Mercedes Lover
'92 190E (215K) - retired to the salvage yard, sigh
'93 500SEL (214K) - Moved to another family, still runs like a young pup
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Old 01-18-2003, 11:41 PM
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For the record, I wholeheartedly agree with the general concensus of the members of this forum who have recommended 123 diesels' as a great first car. I have several friends who have sent children out of state to attend college, and they've ALL found 123's for their kids. Peace of mind is important. With that said, a nice new CL600 would be a nice second choice!!!
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Old 01-19-2003, 11:13 AM
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My first car was a '62 Bug my dad bought me in '71. I drove it about 15k miles when the engine seized. My dad's a great guy, but not as a source of automotive technicalities - such as engine oil is a maintenance item. At the cost of an engine rebuild - cheap on the Bug - I began my self-education in automotive mechanics.

It probably isn't so important WHAT you get your kid as long as it comes with a dose of common sense education on care. Wouldn't hurt to maintain it yourself if she isn't so inclined.

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Old 01-19-2003, 01:13 PM
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I think you should start her driving asap under your supervision so she has practice.

Dont get me wrong, but I love my w123c, but If I had it to do over again, I would have gotten a w124 like my brothers. THey got their cars for 10k a few years ago. Mine was 1600 dollars, but I have close to 8 grand in it already, and I am about to do a tranny rebuild, steering rebuild, and engine rebuild just to be safe because my car has a lot of miles on it. I dont think I will ever sell it.

Good luck.
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Former Mercedes in the Stable:
1983 300CD Turbo diesel 515k mi sold
1984 300CD Turbo Diesel 150 k mi sold
1982 300D Turbo Diesel 225 sold
1987 300D Turbo Diesel 255k mi sold
1988 300 CE AMG Hammer 15k mi sold
1986 300E Amg Hammer 88k mi sold
1992 500E 156k mi sold
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Old 01-19-2003, 11:36 PM
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I bought my wife a 1978 280E for $1400 in Hawaii. It had over 200,000 miles by all estimates and it ran like a champ. I hated to sell it when I moved to California. It had get up and go and awesome brakes. Highly recommended.
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Old 01-19-2003, 11:58 PM
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yep, get her a 123 300d, good ole cars, cheap, dependable, safe if she gets in a wreck, taxes are cheap, insurance isnt too bad either, i have an 85 with 280k, i drive it 200 miles to work everyday,
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Old 01-20-2003, 05:11 PM
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When I was 16, the day after I got my driver's license, I got into my mother's 1976 280C door door sedan, and got broad-sided on the passanger side by a huge american sedan that almost cut my mom's car in half. Accident avoidance? No chance...never even saw the car that hit me.

The impact was so great that I got burns on my hands from the friction of my hands being ripped off the streering wheel. The passengers in the car that broad-sided me were carted off to hospital, and luckily survived. Their car looked like and accordian, which the engine basically in the front compartment.

Our insurance agent told my parents that he had seen 100s of wrecks and could not believe that I walked away from it without a scratch (burns not withstanding).

Buy a Merc. sedan.... think BIG.
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