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Old 01-28-2003, 03:30 AM
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performance products tools chain guide

hi

does anybody know how this tool is used?? I found it on performance products website. and seeing that i'm going to do 2 timing chain overhauls on 420sel thought it might help?

http://www.************************/ProductPage.aspx?productname=Chain+Installation+Guide&productid=101464&producttype=20

thanks for any input
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Old 01-28-2003, 12:08 PM
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I managed without it

Still a one man job without it - see my web site.

The cable tie approach took me some 45 minutes - three+ turns of the cam gear translates to 13 or so cable tie repositioning steps, as you get 90 degrees from each repositioning.

My 45 minutes included breaks for messing about with the dog.

It's not clear to me where the illustrated tool would attach - it appears to have two bolt holes for that purpose.

While my pictures illustrate the job on a 116 engine (380/500) it would be much the same on the 420/560.
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Old 01-28-2003, 12:55 PM
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tks much gentlemen for the follow up

my problem too is i can't see how this attaches. i spoke to one of their people yesterday and he didn't know how it work either.

i'm going to try again today to talk to a techie at performance. surely they should have someone there that can tell me how to attach this thing.

i'm really looking forward to this project. i just got another an 87 420sel w/ 128k so i will be doing much the same to that vehicle as well.

any additional info is always appreciated.
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1987 420sel gold/tan 128k
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Pound it to fit then Paint it to match!

There is only First Place and Varying degrees of last!

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Putting the square peg in the round hole is not hard... IF you do it fast enough!

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Old 01-28-2003, 01:36 PM
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Should attach tothe cam tower immediately behind the cam gear. Takes a 10mm allen to remove the bolts. When affixed tothehead, the opening should be toward the right fender,which allows for infeed and outflow of the new and old chains. It has a close fit which keeps both sides of the chain in contact with the gear.
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Old 01-28-2003, 06:17 PM
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well i guess this thread was purely academic. they don't have the tool in stock. it is apparently a special order item.

oh well
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Pound it to fit then Paint it to match!

There is only First Place and Varying degrees of last!

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Old enough to know better but stupid enough to do it anyway!
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Old 01-28-2003, 07:12 PM
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I replied to this post but it has not come up so please excuse if i do a double post

thank you mike .

i went outside and i can plainly see how the unit works now. the foto doesn't do the tool justice because it must be bigger than it appears in the foto.

another thank you to thomaspin . your chain replacement layout is worthy of any professional job i have seen. both your rail guide replacement and this chain replacement are wonderful. it surely clears up any doubt as to the proper proceedure.

everyone here on this site should be thankful that people like mike and thomas are willing to take the time and share their skills. they don't have to but they do.

to you 2 gentlemen and all senior members and techs thank you.

craig
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1972 350sl Red/Blk 117k
1988 420sel charcoal/Blk 140k
1987 420sel gold/tan 128k
See My Cars at:http://mysite.verizon.net/res0aytj/index.html

Pound it to fit then Paint it to match!

There is only First Place and Varying degrees of last!

Old age and deceit will overcome Youth and Enthusiasm every time!

Putting the square peg in the round hole is not hard... IF you do it fast enough!

Old enough to know better but stupid enough to do it anyway!
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Old 01-29-2003, 12:32 AM
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************************ is an interesting site and I have bought tools from them, but they haven't a clue what anything is or how to use it. They are simply nothing more than an online retail parts & tool source.

Sites like this will provide better how-to.
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Old 01-29-2003, 01:30 AM
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The tool that your talking about is a little on the expensive for a home repair. Your really only need a couple of pairs of med. size needle nose vise-grips toget the job done. Remove the plugs tighten the PS belt and use the PS pump nut to turn the engine. Stuff a cloth in the open engine cavity any time that you are playing with the links. Always inspect the clamping rail closely. Judge how good the chain tensioner is by turning the right cam backward with a wrench. If the rail compresses easily then replace the tensioner. Alway use OE parts. The aftermarket copies aren't worth the risk. Replace the cam oiler kits. Inspect the rocker arm faces or cam lobes for metal transfer, a common problem. And one more thing, I find it best to do this by myself. A "helper" can create problems that you can't control. Good Luck!
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