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Old 04-10-2003, 12:24 PM
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An update

Hello all,

I was looking through the engine bay for vacuum leaks and noticed that a plug (I think it is the intake air temp sensor) is loose. It's a plug that is attached to cross-over pipe close to the intake runners.

Arthur and everyone, could this have been the cause of my Code 13? It was loose enough that some air could have gotten into the intake.

I reset the code, so we'll see if it comes back.

Thanks for all the help,
Richard
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Old 04-10-2003, 05:13 PM
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Any air leaks between the Air Mass sensor and the engine
will cause engine management codes.
Another common place on 104s is to check the clamp on the cross pipe where it hooks to the intake.
This clamp requires a Long shaft screwdriver and is often overlooked.
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Old 04-11-2003, 11:40 AM
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Unhappy It's back.

Yup. The CE light came back on. I guess I'll have to check the fuel pressure next to see where the problem is coming from!


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Any air leaks between the Air Mass sensor and the engine
will cause engine management codes.
Another common place on 104s is to check the clamp on the cross pipe where it hooks to the intake.
This clamp requires a Long shaft screwdriver and is often overlooked.
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Old 04-14-2003, 10:07 AM
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Ok.

I checked the fuel pressure. It's dead on at 3.8bar. I don't see any leaks either. Arthur, what do you think? I added a fuel injector cleaner just to make sure that they are not clogged.

O2 sensor next?

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Richard
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Old 04-14-2003, 11:13 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by 95e320
[B]Ok.



O2 sensor next?

Why not ?

I told you at the beginning, given the age of your car, it wouldn't be a complete waste of time or money.
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Old 04-14-2003, 12:55 PM
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HI Manny,

Yeah, I will give it a try this weekend. BTW, does anyone know the Bosch number for the O2 sensor in this car? (95 e320) I think I can just splice the connector.

Richard

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Ok.



O2 sensor next?

Why not ?

I told you at the beginning, given the age of your car, it wouldn't be a complete waste of time or money.
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Old 04-14-2003, 02:29 PM
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95e320

Bosch part # is: 13314

Should be no need to splice anything, as it comes with the OEM connector.

Btw. www.boschusa.com
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Old 04-14-2003, 03:57 PM
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Because your car is Electronic FI, there is an easy O2 test that a DIY can do W/a DVM..

Unplug the sens and hook up meter to sig wire from sens. Warm engine and let run...
Watching meter, unplug the vac line to the fuel regulator. [I hold my finger over the line to stop any vac leak while I do this part]
This should immediately [ less than 300 m/sec] show a rich reading of a min of .9 volts. You can put the vac line off/on several times and watch the O2 sens output change...
This vac line to the reg is what keeps the fuel pressure in check...by disconnecting it, the fuel pressure increases causing the rich condition...
Now for the lean [ low voltage ] O2 test...
Same deal, but this time you disconnect a vac line [ on the 104,
the line to the SOVs is a good one] , Now, the O2 should drop to less than .2 volts in less than 300 m/s. Do this several times and you will see the sens speed/reading..
A scope is much better as you can chart the process and get exact cross counts/speeds/volts, but a DMV and a little experience
and one can tell a bad sensor without too much trouble..
In other words , you are manually Causing Rich/Lean conditions
and watching the o2 sensors response to those conditions.
Because you have unplugged the sensor from the system, the ECU has no control over your manual conditions, so this is a direct O2 sensor test ... EFI cars make this test possible as they are designed to run at certain fuel pressures..., whereas on others you have to ad fuel/propane to do the enrichment part
of the test.... a little more work...but same idea..
I personally never change an O2 sensor until I test that
sensor/ circuit and I never change one just because a CE lamp comes on....

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Old 09-30-2003, 04:32 PM
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95E320, were you able to solve the Code 13 problem?
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