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Old 05-08-2003, 03:08 PM
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Question 190E 30k Service Question

looking at buying a 1987 190e 2.3. One of the pices of paperwork it has on it states:

"30k 30,000 mile maint. service
30,000 mile maintenance service per
per MBNA service/ oil $ filter change/
brake inspection/road test"

The cost was 220.00. Can someone tells me what this entails? I assume its mostly fluids and filters, etc....? thanks
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Old 05-08-2003, 04:24 PM
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It's an oil change, air filter, spark plugs, maybe a fuel filter and O2 sensor, and most of the rest is "check this, check that". When I had my initial 1000 mile service done at the dealer back in '88 I received a two-sided "M-B Maintenance System" sheet that has all the service jobs listed with a check box for each one. The initial inspection, 7.5K lubrication, 15K maintenance, and 30 and 60K additional jobs are in separate sections and they are additive, so at 60 and 120K, maintenance would include all jobs in the 7.5K, 15K, 30K, and 60K lists. There are also several jobs that should be performed on a time basis such as antifreeze and brake/clutch fluid replacement.

I just made a copies of this form and have used it to record all my DIY maintenance ever since. I keep them in a two-pin file folder along with the substantial number of warranty ROs, so I have an easy to read chronological record of everything ever done to the car going back to the delivery inspection checklist.

I also have a later 1989 copy, which is four sheets. It's the same basic work. They just reformatted it from two to four sides to make it a bit more readable and cut the fuel filter change interval from 60 to 30K.

Just ask your dealer for a blank copy of the current sheet or one from the '87 era if they still have a copy to see all the various maintenance jobs and intervals. Also, this sheet is published by DB, so it's based on their recommended maintenance schedule, not the dealers, which sometimes halve the frequency of everthing.

Like most modern cars the scheduled maintenance is nothing more than fluid, filter, and spark plug changes. The rest are various inspections, (like brakes and driveshaft flex disks) and there's no reason why a competent amateur cannot do the basic mainteance and inspection tasks.

I think the front of the warranty book also references the various recommended maintenance tasks for each mileage interval.

Though the sheet says to change the O2 sensor at 60K, I did not do so as I had no indication that it was faulty. Since I now know how to check the actual output of the O2 sensor with an oscilloscope, I've just added that job to my 15K maintenance tasks, and I won't change it unless it shows faulty operation.

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Old 05-08-2003, 05:54 PM
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For the 2.3 W201:

According to the wizards at Stuttgart:

Inspection at 800-1000 miles

Lubrication Service every 7,500 miles or twice a year (spring & fall)

Maintenance Service every 15,000 miles or two years

Additional Work every 30,000 miles

MB suggested replacing oil and filter every 3750 miles for "hard and sporty" driving

Auto trans fluid change every 15,000 miles, filter and fluid at 30K intervals

Brake fluid annually, preferably in the spring.

Coolant change at least every 3 years.

Lube enging throttle, linkage rods and shafts every 7,500 or twice a year (thats a lot of grease!)

Cats might need replacement after 50K miles

Every 15K: oil/filter, new plugs, lube throttle parts, door hinges, door locks and hood. Check fluid levels, inspect everything else for wear and tear.

Every 30K: oil/filter, air filter, check V-belt, replace O2 sensor (warning light comes on @ 60K), replace plugs, check clutch, flex discs

Every 60K: Replace fuel filter

Once a year: Replace brake fluid, clean water drains, clean and lube sunroof rails and sliding blocks
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