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1987 260 E throttle response
My car is very "flatfooted" off idle. It takes a few seconds to spool up and then it chirps the tires when it hits second gear. It just doesn't seem to respond to throttle input like it should. My mechanic has been adjusting and fuel injection settings and it's much better but still not quite right.
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I have a customer with the same problem. It feels so lazy compared to a 300e 3.0L. If you drop to a lower gear it goes faster. I need to check the linkage and the trans kickdown cable.
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The 124/2.6 is a torque shy engine in a fairly heavy body. I believe your car normally starts in second gear, and if you floor the throttle it will downshift to first, but this will take a second or two. The chirp you hear may actually be the downshift to FIRST gear.
If you move the gear selector to "L" it will start in first gear. Try this and see if it makes a difference. The behavior you report may actually be normal. The second gear start and slow throttle tip-in is characteristic of Mercs to make them smooth, but it can also make them seem slow when you are trying to make a quick start from a dead stop. A slow shift to first gear on a WOT start may be possible to correct with adjustment of the kickdown linkage, but I'm can't give you any guidance on this as my 201/2.6 has a manual transmission. Duke |
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Same
My 1987 260E starts normally in second gear. If I floor it from start it downshifts to first gear and it almost squeeches the tires when second engages. I guess that the first gear is quite short and sort of agressive. I have really learned to drive nice and slow with this car - sometimes I am thankful that Mercedes made an engine which starts such heavy car in second gear making it so smooth.
My $0.02
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In my 260, you have to push pretty agressively to get off the line quickly. That is, floor it past the kick down switch (and wait, hold on) or manually shift down to 2 (and then "row" it back, or to be eve more agressive, leave it a 2 until 45 mph or so.)
Making my 200,000 odo'd car rev up near the red line makes me nervous. Also, bouncing off the rev limiter in 2nd, at a hair under 55. Is this bad? :-) (only did it once)
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Apparently this is a 2.6L thing. Mine does that too, especially after the first startup of the day, when seems to be fuel starved for the first minute or two.
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The sweet spot in the 2.6 power curve is 5000 to the rev limiter which hits at about 6650. I'm not saying you should regularly rev it up near the limit, but when you really need the performance, don't hesistat to use the full operating range of the engine. Unless you hold it in low it will shift to third before the limiter. Hitting the rev limiter will cause no harm, but it will stop acceleration, so you need to upshift before you hit it. The rev limiter is there to protect the bottom end and valvetrain from possible damaging stresses that could occur from overreving, and the limiter is easy to hit in the 2.6 because the power does not rolloff very fast and it really wants to rev higher. Duke |
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Check for vacuum leaks -- brake booster line, brake booster itself, all the emissions stuff, and tranny control. Also climate control -- does the AC tend to blow up the windshield instead of out the dash vents?
Idle control valve hoses go bad and leak, causes rough idle, stalling sometimes, and throttle lag. You should have decent response even in 2nd, if you put the throttle down and ......then it goes, you have either an overlean condition (also check OVP relay, it can cause mixture control failure problems), a bad 02 sensor, or a vac leak (or combination). Worn out secondary ignition parts will do this too, as will a bad vac signal line to the computer on the driver's side fender! Peter
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