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Old 03-26-2000, 01:12 PM
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81 300D

I've seen alot of discussion on engine running rough and pinging/clattering when RPM's raised. The advise was it most likely is an injector problem.

I have just the opposite problem. My engine runs smooth as silk above 1000 rpm, no misses that I can tell.

However, when rpm drops to idle then I hear the pinging and nailing, it also starts idling rough, jumping and missing.

Same problem? Anything particular I need to look into? Or Should I just expect this with 240k mile engine?

Note: I did disconnect each injector, one at at time while idling rough. I could tell the engine would run even worse on each one, so each must be all working, the pump was pumping, however, when I disconnect 1 injector I didn't hear the Ping as bad.
I also ran LM diesel purge thru it, no change.


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Old 03-26-2000, 08:26 PM
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Try to listen and see if it is one in particular. If so, you may want to try to replace the injectors first.

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Old 03-26-2000, 11:51 PM
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I don't think very highly of Lubro Moly products. Try a bottle of Red Line Diesel Catalyst and see if that helps. I've always been impressed with their products and use them religiously in all of my cars. I tried LM's Diesel Purge in my old 240D to try to cure injector ping under load and nothing got better. Ran a bottle of Red Line in it and no more pinging! Great stuff!

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Old 03-27-2000, 12:23 AM
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Aaron's post parallels my experience with my pinging and vibrating 240D at low RPM, but I don't think my engine was missing. I added a bottle of the Red Line catylist (bought from this site) and no kidding, she calmed down by the end of the tank of fuel. Started to vibrate again within a thousand miles, but that proved to be a bad motor mount--maybe caused by all that vibration before Red Line?

Hope your problem is so simple!

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