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william rogers 06-03-2004 02:51 AM

I hope someone at Mercedes reads this forum(as well as other MB sites) and I'll bet they do.

Now! so Larry has a secret car hmmmmm . With all the clever minds at work here there must be a way we can figure out what it is. Anyone have access to satellite photos?

William Rogers.........

Nautilus 06-03-2004 04:39 AM

Conclusion to a long and boring thread:

The W124, and not a newer model, was dubbed "Best Post-War Sedan from Mercedes-Benz":D :p ;) :cool:

~Good luck and keep yours on road

Nautilus

LarryBible 06-03-2004 05:44 AM

William,

I will say this, I did not replace my C240 with another road car. My 300E now serves as my road car for my occasional trips to Kansas City (Over 400 mile trip.)

The car that I got is just another toy and not the kind of car that would be at all appreciated by most MB owners/drivers.

I probably won't have it long anyway because my daughter and wife both have gone bonkers over it and want it for their own.

Have a great day,

tvpierce 06-03-2004 09:21 AM

Awe, c'mon Larry. We're an open-minded group here -- with very diverse tastes and views. I for one have an appreciation for a wide range of vehicles. For instance, my daily driver is my beloved 201 -- a well appointed, well made automobile. My "hobby" vehicle is an '85 Jeep CJ-7 -- it doesn't get any less refined than this thing. It's like driving a motorized wheel barrel with an umbrella for a roof. But you know what, I love it! The thing is a hoot. The Jeep came from the factory as a piece of crap. But over its 18 years, it's been modified/upgraded so extensively, that it's almost a decent truck now.

Additionally, your opinion and input are highly valued on this forum. I’d be much more interested in what you have to say about a car than the knuckleheads who write car columns for newspapers and magazines.

So do tell… what’s this little car that’s captured the hearts of you and your family?

The anticipation is killing me.

Jeff Pierce

95s420 06-03-2004 09:48 AM

You know what this reminds me of......MICROSOFT. Lots of useless features that most people don't even know exist and yet the software crashed frequently and the security stinks!

Lebenz 06-03-2004 12:52 PM

Larry, sorry to read of the demise of your C240. I remember when you were thinking of buying it. It was a very difficult decision.

It’s a shame Mercedes betrayed so many long term customers. Sad that it took buying POS Chrysler and then POS Mitsubishi for them to even start to pay lip service to the effects of building and selling failure prone cars and trucks to well intended folks. Yet another reflection of our times, where the quest for the all mighty dollar encourages some to betray their own mothers. And everyone else that comes along......

william rogers 06-03-2004 01:03 PM

Mini Cooper



William Rogers.........

Kestas 06-03-2004 01:16 PM

Today's Detroit Free Press announced a new car coming into the market -- Renault Logan for $6100. It comes WITHOUT power steering, ABS, a/c, or radio.

I'm sure it's built without a lot of other stuff. It sounds a lot like my 85 Omni I bought new.

Renault is targeting emerging markets and has no plans on selling this car in the US or western Europe.

cil254 06-03-2004 02:30 PM

Larry, I remember your posts praising the W203, including the electronics (ESP in particular):
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/featured-cars/91604-1991-300e-vs-2001-c320.html

What made you change your mind so drastically ?

Triffin 06-03-2004 02:49 PM

[[What made you change your mind so drastically ?]]

Ownership ..
;) ;) ;)

LarryBible 06-03-2004 02:50 PM

cil254,

I went and reread the thread you linked. I STILL believe that the 203 blows the 124 completely away when sitting in the drivers seat, just as the 124 blows away the 123 sitting in the drivers seat.

There is just NO COMPARISON. The problem was the nightmarish things that started going wrong and the thought of trying to pay a dealer to keep it going after it's out of warranty in a few months.

The car is just too complex. I think if I had waited a year after they were out instead of buying the first one off the boat, my experience might have been different. Notice I said MIGHT. The complexity is just too much.

It makes me sick to think about being in a position of having to give up such a great driving car.

William,

What leads you to believe Mini Cooper?

Have a great day,

bhatt 06-03-2004 03:14 PM

Not just MB
 
My wife had a 2001 BMW 320i and our list of repairs/problems almost exactly mirrors the problems LarryBible has described with his W203.

After they replaced the rear differential twice to get the clunk to go away (which it never did...) we decided that we couldn't afford the labor/parts cost when this thing drops out of warranty.

Solution? We dumped it and bought a 1987 560SL for a lot less money. I can fix it in my garage, parts are readily available and not outrageously expensive, and gas mileage is only slightly worse. Best of all, it *always* starts and *never* breaks compared to the BMW!

We've been trying to steer others away from these newer "unrepairable" cars. Of course we weren't able to stop one friend from selling his "old worn out car" (1998 Acura 3.2TL in PERFECT shape that ran really well) to buy a "new" car (2004 BMW 545i) with the latest in electronic toys .. AND he's able to brag that he got one of the first ones around! (when did that become a *good* thing???)

Neal

Holeshot 06-03-2004 03:58 PM

New vs. Old
 
On many levels I hate to admit this (and I'll likely neve tell my wife this outright as the ML is hers) but I love driving my old '90 300E more than our (once-new) ML 320. It just feels like a real Benz.. the ML does not (built in TN, right?). Aside from a mysterious power-drop on Tuesday she's still sticking over at 15 years old and 190k mi. on the clock.

If I could find a good older MB with AWD I might consider selling the ML and buying that. Unfortunatly we need at least AWD vehicle due to snow (they don't plow our streets).

LarryBible 06-03-2004 04:20 PM

Well Tennessee is at least a border state. The ML is built in Alabama.

Have a great day,

95s420 06-03-2004 05:49 PM

What source was this article from?

Thanks


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