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Old 10-18-2000, 07:05 PM
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Hi Guys,
I'm having a little problem that comes and goes. This is on my 1986 300e (w124) My front end sometimes shakes around at high speed. It feels like the tires are out of alignment. I don't believe this is the problem because the condition is worsened when I brake. If I'm jamming down the freeway at 85 MPH or so and step on the brakes to slow, the front end vibrates. I can feel it in the steering wheel and I can feel it in the chassis.

I thought it might be a warped disk, but it sometimes happens without braking. Other times it doesn't happen at all. There is no noise associated with this condition. It never happens at low speeds and everything runs fine.

In the past, someone mentioned perhaps it could be the lower control arms. Perhaps bushings? The car only has 85k on the clock. It is 14 years old, but the mileage is low. Any ideas where I should start?

PS, the front end does not sway like I'm driving an old LTD. It handles fine other than the vibration

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Old 10-18-2000, 07:55 PM
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I expect that your problem is tires. Either they are out of balance, or there is a serious problem with one, such as a broken belt.

You can check the front end for tightness if you have the proper equipment such as a floorjack and jackstands. If you do have such equipment, raise the car, suspend the front wheels, and shake and pry on everything to see if you can find something loose.

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Old 10-18-2000, 08:20 PM
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I might suggest checking the steering damper and tie rod ends as well. Both can give you this symptom..

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Old 10-18-2000, 08:20 PM
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I would personally Check the front end for any loose parts...Pay special attention to the lower ball joints and the tie rod ends(steering linkage) Another thing to check would be the steering shock absorber,It only takes two 17 mm bolts to remove/install it.It sould be moving smoothly but be firm. Good luck.
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Old 10-18-2000, 08:32 PM
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Thanks guys, I'll do all that. I especially like the bit about shaking everything under the front end to see what's loose. That's my style. I just got a floor jack the other day. Fancy that...

Do you think if the tires are out of balance (which wouldn't surprise me) that the condition would be especially bad during braking?

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Old 10-18-2000, 09:12 PM
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Kyle, balance has really got to be grossly out of whack to cause shaking as speed decreases. Balance problems usually get worse as your speed increases. You might get some vibration at speed, but shaking is really more related to a mechanical problem with the suspension being able to hold the front wheels in a straight line.

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Old 10-18-2000, 09:26 PM
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Thanks Jeff, that makes sense to me also. I'll have the tires balanced anyway. It couldn't hurt. I'm going to take the car to the dealership and have them diagonose the problem before I start crawling around on my back under the car. I hate that! That's why I bought a motorcycle to work on and a car to drive.

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Old 10-19-2000, 06:12 AM
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Hey Kyle! Up to a joke? That's why Guys like me work on your car and ride a Honda...So I don't have to work at all on the bike...And make big money on MB cars.Good luck on your front end,keep us posted.
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Old 10-19-2000, 08:13 PM
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How many miles on the car? This will give us all a better ability to take a more accurate stab at your problem...
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Old 10-20-2000, 02:00 PM
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Almost 85k on the odometer. that's what I meant when I said "the clock"

Thanks for all the help


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